I think that what you're saying is correct for unusual circumstances
like those you mention: A sunset, light reflecting on water, extreme
backlighting. For those situations, I too use a spotmeter and pick the
spot that I want to be 18% reflectivity or the equivelant of gray. But
for average lighting conditions, an incident meter is very easy to use
and very accurate.
Paul

"Hagner, Andrew" wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill:
> 
> No confusion on my part but maybe my poor writing.  You are correct by
> saying "reflective meter measures light reflected from a subject, and an
> incident meter measures the light falling on a subject".  I maintain
> however, that the reflective meter gives you more useful information than
> incident meter.  Many of my photographs could not have been measured using
> an incident meter due to distance and wide range of contrast, often
> excessive even for a B&W film.  In which case I had to make decisions as to
> what I should let go, shadows of highlights.
> 
> Cheers,  - Andrew.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: March 24, 2003 6:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Hand Meters
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> See my earlier post on the subject.  I think you are confused somewhat about
> incident metering.  Both a reflected meter and an incident meter measure
> ambient light, the difference being that a reflective meter measures light
> reflected from a subject, and an incident meter measures the light falling
> on a subject.  Overall, usually, most of the time..... an incident meter
> will be more accurate, assuming that the light falling on the dome of the
> meter is in the same light as the subject.  IOW, you point a reflective
> meter at the subject, and an incident meter is placed near the subject and
> pointed towards the camera.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hagner, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:54 PM
> Subject: RE: Hand Meters
> 
> > Steve:
> >
> > The light that is recorded on film is the reflected light from your
> subject.
> > The ambient meters measure only ambient light and ignores the
> > reflected light, so logically the reflected light meters give you
> > information that
> you
> > actually need.  Ambient meters, however work in many situations.  When
> > the contrast range is not exceeding the film contrast and when the
> > same type
> of
> > light hits your subject as it hits your meter then the ambient meters
> > are fine.  When you are photographing a distant scene in an
> > interesting light, it is likely that the light hitting your meter is
> > very different from the one that is falling on the scene.  In this
> > case the ambient meter gives
> you
> > no useful information.  If the scene exceeds the film contrast then
> > again, ambient meter gives you information relevant to the middle
> > tones but the highlight and shadows will be outside the films range.
> > In this case the ambient meter gives you no information on the
> > contrast range.
> >
> > So, my recommendation is to use a reflected spot meter which overcomes
> these
> > shortcomings.  With little practice it is hard to make an error in
> exposure
> > provided the meter is linear and is properly calibrated.  My favourite
> > one is the Zone VI modified Pentax digital meter.  Very simple,
> > reliable and accurate.
> >
> > Cheers,  - Andrew.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: March 24, 2003 1:40 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Hand Meters
> >
> >
> > What would folks recommend in a handmeter, spot  or ambient?
> >
> >
> > Steven Desjardins
> > Department of Chemistry
> > Washington and Lee University
> > Lexington, VA 24450
> > (540) 458-8873
> > FAX: (540) 458-8878
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >

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