One has absolutely NOTHING to do with the other.
Two entirely separate situations.
No-one is trying to impress you. Get over it.

keith

frank theriault wrote:
> 
> Bob's son Aaron is lying in a hospital somewhere, wondering if he's going to lose a
> foot, and you guys get into this discussion.  Shame on both of you!
> 
> I'm not impressed.  This really ain't the time...
> 
> -frank
> 
> Keith Whaley wrote:
> 
> > mishka wrote:
> > >
> > > you have probably meant "except that it start out as JWB appointee and does
> > > exactly what it's told", right?
> > >
> > > and as far as threat goes... in recent history, iraq has made far less
> > > damage to the world than either britain or usa (or france, or germany or
> > > russia for that matter).
> >
> > I guess you have ignored for years and years...and years...the genocide
> > Saddam has practiced, right? Or maybe that doesn't count, so long as you
> > leave your neighbors alone?
> > That's a pitiable attitude, Mishka.
> >
> > > this rhethoric about democracy and freedom is pathetic. the country that
> > > has been authorizing genocide for decades, if not centuries,
> >
> > 'Scuse me? Authorizing? Whom, to do what?
> >
> > >...that has attacked
> > > all its neighbors at some point in the past, that invented nuclear weapons,
> >
> > Only because we judged it the better of the available courses of action
> > to be first, instead of a very VERY sorry second!
> > Do you have any understanding of how close Germany was? You cannot
> > ignore their contribution to the speed of OUR development of nuclear
> > weapons.  It's their fervor that drove us on to completion and
> > demonstration of the first-off weapon of it's kind.
> > You may not like it, nor do I...but the world wouldn't exist for you as
> > it does now, if anyone else had gotten there first.
> > So I believe...
> >
> > > the only one that has actually used them against civilians, that has just
> > > introduced secret trials,
> >
> > Yes, and that does need looking into. No-one to be spared.
> >
> > >...that said it's legal and constitutional to disappear people,
> >
> > Your diatribe misses no subject, does it? Did you have anyone in
> > particular in mind?
> >
> > >...that bases its internal policies on race --
> >
> > Oh really? Have you a source for that contention?
> >
> > > is going to teach the world freedom?
> > > gimmie a break!
> >
> > Which would you like? Arm or leg?
> >
> > > now, can we go back to discussing leica and canon?
> >
> > No, I'd quite frankly rather talk about Pentax cameras and their use.
> > I'm getting sort of sick of hearing about the Leicas, with their
> > artificially inflated prices, when most of them are no longer even made
> > by the parent company. Leica/Leitz, as a producer of ultra fine cameras,
> > once more than worth their price in the photographic world, has slipped
> > down the path to mediocrity.
> > Still an excellent camera, most of the more expensive ones anyhow, but
> > their mid-line and below are not significantly better than your average
> > Minolta.  If that.
> > Sorry if I have tweaked some Minolta fans. It was not my intention.
> >
> > keith whaley
> >
> > > mishka
> > >
> > > p.s. yes, i live here. it doesn't mean i should pretend it all does not exist.
> > >
> > > > Neither I
> > > > nor my government care what form of government the Iraqis choose, except
> > > > that it start out as the choice of the Iraqi people and that it not be a
> > > > danger to their neighbors or the world.
> 
> --
> "What a senseless waste of human life"
> -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch

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