I read some time ago that there were made emperical tests with groups that were compared. One group of patients got the prayers of a group of people, the other not. All that for a certain time. And the result was that the recovery was better in the first group. Sure there are statistic problems and so on with those empiric things. I cannot remember where I read this but I am quite sure it appeared in at least one serious magazine, too. I noticed that because usually those results are counted to that sort of people who believe in supernatural things and are not scientific in the denotation that is defined by the science. That test was scientific in a form that is used everywhere by science for example to explore the effect of pharmaceutical products on human beings.
You should know that from time to time I use REIKI, a japanese method for self-recovery. (Difficult to "explain", you could take a look at http://www.parama.com/html/reiki.html ). I know of my practise that some things are possible that are usually not accepted from critical people who can't understand it like they believe to understand other things like atomic model and so on. Reiki is no praying at all but it shows what spiritual energy can do. So I was happy to find some more hint beside my own experience that convinces me a little more that I am not chasing soap bubbles when I do Reiki. For sure I need this convincing , too, because I studied physics and maths - so I know all that models are only models and there are so many things you can't yet explain with it. Acupuncture, too, is a thing that works but the europeen medicine can't explain it and accepts it very slowly. I hope I could explain my point of view a little bit. Regards Bernd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Heide Clausen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:40 AM Subject: Re: Odd request > Not questioning your seriousity here, Bernd, but...when you write > "scientifically proved", then what *exactly* do you mean? > > Inquiring scientist wanting to know. > > --thomas > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:39:14 +0200 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (U+B Scheffler) wrote: > > > It is scientifically proved that the prayer of lot's of people for > > a certain person - even if they know it personally - will > > accelarate the recovery. So I call all the list members that are > > ready for a good deed to do so. If Bill will accept this. Will you, > > Bill? > > > > Best wishes, > > Bernd > > > > postscript: It should be necessary to know the date of your birth, > > Bill, to target our action. > > postscript 2: I mean all this seriously! > > > > >
