On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:02:32 +0100 (BST)
Chris Stoddart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > I read some time ago that there were made emperical tests with
> > groups that were compared. One group of  patients got the prayers
> > of a group of people, the other not. All that for a certain time.
> > And the result was that the recovery was better in the first
> > group.
> 
> Well as someone who did postdoctoral work in a university
> pharmaceutical dept, I can assure you that there are loads of
> pitfalls for the unwary researcher into matters of health and
> 'cures'. Repeatability is a keyword, otherwise it's not a lot of
> use to the human race in general no matter how it works. If it just
> worked for one group on one day - well maybe they just got lucky
> and put most of the naturally quick healers in one group and the
> poor healers in the other?

Not being in medical- or pharmaceutical research, the principles
apply across the board for any kind of scientific  research. Hence,
my original inquery as to what exactly was implied by "scienticically
proven".

> 
> You might like to subscribe to the Skeptical Enquirer for a year or
> so :-)
> 
> http://www.csicop.org/si/
> 
> The only downside is that after having results such as yours
> carefully tested and explained (debunked!) you'll have trouble
> having faith in anything for a while.

Working with science of any sort, not having faith in anything (least
of all ones own results) is a very good attribute to acquire :) Makes
a carefull researcher....

--thomas

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