I have to second Cameron here. Having owned both of those lenses, I concur with his conclusions. Alan, you have been known to have more than average trouble with Pentax equipment (who knows why?). It would seem that your experience is not the norm.
At least these 2 lenses I owned (don't hv the 85 anymore) are/were trouble free. Sample variation if you insist. :-)
Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
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