That's bull and you know it. No one imposes anything on anyone on this list
and you know that too. All I'd really like to see is D: for digital and an
F: for film. I thought I'd made that clear. But since there is so much
digital stuff going on now I've just unsubscribed.  I'll come back any time
I want to ask a question or contribute something. Cheers to you too, AH.

Don

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Labelling messages by topic D: S: F: P: OT: and so on (2)


> Hi,
>
> the correct way to deal with this sort of thing is for people to use
> the subject line properly, and to change it as and when necessary.
> That is the real problem, although personally I don't think it is a
> particularly bad problem. If I miss something interesting in one of
> the threads I delete, well tough.
>
> Codes are just some sort of shorthand for the subject. If people don't
> change the subject, they won't change the codes. That's just a plain
> fact which spoils your system from the word go.
>
> In addition to that, many messages - not threads, but individual
> messages - include several subjects. You may be interested in some of
> these but not in others. So perhaps you need a set of codes to
> indicate which subjects the message includes.
>
> 3rd, you would need to get agreement on a large number of codes. There
> are a lot of people on the list who don't share all of your interests or
> dislikes. While each person's personal list might be small, the
> combined list would probably become large. This would certainly lead
> to multi-letter codes, or - horror! - mixtures of letters and digits
> (p1=printing, p2=processing,...).
>
> This would lead to quite a large number of multi-letter codes typed as
> sets into the subject line. Gee. That's words and phrases. Only now they
> don't belong to the language common to everybody on the list, but are
> arbitrary combinations which people are expected to remember. Coding
> schemes are great for computers, bad for people.
>
> Easy identification of the subject, and useful filtering comes from
> writing and maintaining useful subject lines, not inventing new
> languages and trying to impose them on other people.
>
> It may well be that people don't read some things they might otherwise
> have read. That's their choice. On the other hand, if people are to be
> criticised for not sticking to your coding system then people won't write
> things they might otherwise have written, and nobody gains from their
> wisdom.
>
> I suggest your efforts would be better spent trying to get us to
> change the subject line when appropriate.
>
> -- 
> Cheers,
>  Bob
>
>
> Monday, January 26, 2004, 11:27:01 AM, you wrote:
>
> > Labelling the subject in some simple way would not only help people like
me
> > to eliminate unwanted posts -- but an F: for film would help select the
> > desirable ones as well. If the task becomes too laborious, as it often
does,
> > I may sacrifice all and lose valuable exchanges as a result. Is that
what
> > you want? Don't you care if your messages are read or not? Many members,
> > Boris for instance, get a lot from PDML and he is a lively
contributor -- I
> > don't know where he finds the time. There are others like him. Easy
> > identification of the subject might help them as well.
>
> > I suggested a few labels. They are not arbitrary. 'D:' for digital is
okay.
> > 'F:' for film would also be good. It would be very easy to type the two
> > characters needed to identify a subject. 'Dig:' would also be okay, but
the
> > extra characters might be too much strain. 'Digital' would involve huge
> > effort. But it would be folly to come up with a list of 20 or more
different
> > ids. No one would bother, or remember them. But the separation of
digital
> > from film would be very useful. I know that P: for processing may not be
so
> > good because there is printing to consider.
>
> > I don't need to be relieved of editing. As I said, if it's too much
trouble
> > I just delete the lot. And maybe someone who was looking for information
I
> > might have been able to provide loses my input. There are a few little
> > things I know about that can be useful to others sometimes. But it's
usually
> > the other way around. I get a lot of invaluable information from PDML.
Most
> > recently I found out about a fine scanner.
>
> > It didn't take me long to realise that there is always someone in the
group
> > who knows the answer, or can help find it. And so, anything that makes
it
> > easier for others to read your contributions is helpful.
>
>

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