Thankfully its never happened to me. The lab i use will push/pull,kick,step what ever 
you
like.lol
I do most of my own developing now,but not having a good result with my first IR roll,i
take it to 
them.They always write on the order"open in complete darkness" and usually get good
results except 
for some water stains occassionally.
I have used and pushed both Kodak and Ilford to 6400 and i feel the Kodak gives a 
better
grain than 
Ilford.But then again i have thick glasses.:-)

Dave  

                                        > A cautionary tale...
> 
> I remember being excited at the prospect of such a fast film
> as Kodak TMax p3200, back when I was still taking my film to
> a department store to be shipped off to a cheap bulk lab.
> I shot a roll at 6400, wrote "Push to 6400" on the envelope,
> and dropped it off ... and got back darkness.  Woefully 
> underexposed.  You could tell I'd exposed the film, but it
> was hard to figure out what I'd been pointing the camera at.
                                -- Glenn
> 
> 
> * "PFM" = "Pure ... Magic"
> ,
> 

                                


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