I've used several samples and iterations of the 85/1.8, and
have used every iteration of the 105/2.0 from Super Tak thru
K.  That's over a period of 30+ years.  Lots of exposures. 
Let's see, thats three 85mm/1.8 lenses and four 105mm
lenses.

While I've never found a need to compare their sharpness
aperture by aperture (true folly, imo) I can say that these
lenses, in whatever iteration you find them in, are quite
sharp.  The SMC Tak ~was~ a legend in its time (boy, do I
remember the buzz the lens caused when it came out), and the
K85/1.8 will stand against any lens for sharpness.  It's
damned good.

I'd say you screwed up the focusing ... let's face it, from
what I understand the VF in the newer cameras are not
designed for manual focusing.



> > From what I can see, the SMC Takumar 85/1.8 pictures are quite
> > noticeably
> > less sharp than the SMC Takumar 105/2.8 (which produced really sharp
> > pictures).  I've tested that 85--with tmax 100-- against other Nikon
> > and
> > Pentax 85 designs and found it to be quite competitive in terms of
> > sharpness.  I seem to recall this lens being something of a legend
> > in its time.  At almost f8 it should be about as sharp as it gets.
> > The areas I was examining were the eyes, and this is after 1.5x crop
> > factor, so we should be talking about "center" sharpness of the lenses.
> >
> > I THINK that the 85 is the same optical design as the "K" 85/1.8, and
> > the 105 is the same optical design as the "K" 105/2.8, if that brings
> > more people's experience into play.  The 85/1.8 is NOT the same optics
> > as the earlier 85/1.9.  The 105 optics actually date back to at least
> > the Super Takumar version if not farther.
> >
> > I can't rule out focus error (since the *istD didn't seem to want to
> > give
> > me a green "in-focus" indicator with the screw-mounts) and I was
> > shooting
> > stopped down and not refocusing with every shot.   At that aperture,
> > and
> > a head-and-shoulders framing distance on the *istD, I should have depth
> > of field to cover small errors in focus anyway.
> >
> > I haven't actually tested the 85 AGAINST the 105 before.  The 85 is a
> > 50mm
> > design (gauss or sonnar) and the 105 is a telephoto, plus the 85 has a
> > rather large aperture for its day and focal length--perhaps the 85
> > is going to be naturally less sharp.
> >
> > Does anybody else find that the 105 outperforms the 85 at middling
> > apertures
> > on film, or is it that the 85 design somehow does not produce the same
> > high-quality results with the *istD sensor as it does on film?  I've
> > heard
> > that some other lenses have this problem, and the Takumars certainly
> > weren't designed with digital in mind!
> >
> > DJE
> >

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