Its not a matter of examples antonio, its a matter of computers having certain essential qualities. You cannot "by design" eliminate even virii!! If a person opens a piece of software, sent to them by whatever means, and they run it on their computer, you can't design that out!! 99.99% of todays spyware is installed BY THE USER!! You cannot eliminate that "by design" or you would be eliminating the functionality of the OS. Not to mention that many cookies track users... There is simply no way to COMPLETELY secure a computer without making functionality sacrifices. I guarantee you that OSX has flaws in it, and if enough people cared to exploit those flaws, they would be found and eploited. Its the nature of software to have flaws. Even UNIX has flaws, and OSX is based on UNIX so no doubt OSX has flaws as well.
-Shawn -----Original Message----- From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME Ok, I am open to being wrong. Could yo point me to some examples? Antonio On 18 May 2004, at 18:58, John Francis wrote: >> >> "As far as I am aware there is no spy-ware nor viruses on OSX. I >> believe >> that is by design." >> >> >> >> GAHHHHHHH Sorry, Antonio, but you are completely and utterly wrong >> on this >> account. >> >> -Shawn >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:07 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME >> >> >> Well OSX runs just fine on my G4 1 gig. Do you own a Mac? Nobody said >> OSX was 64 bit either. As far as I am aware the new G5 chips are 64 >> bit >> but OSX isn't yet. As to price I think you are wrong, a similarly >> specced Wintel machine will cost the same or more than a Mac. Did you >> not hear about the Virginia Tech big mac - the worlds 3rd fastest >> super >> computer, at the fraction of the cost of competing systems, including >> AMD and Intel. >> >> As far as I am aware there is no spy-ware nor viruses on OSX. I >> believe >> that is by design. >> >> Antonio >> >> >> On 18 May 2004, at 16:52, Shawn K. wrote: >> >>> OSX flaws... For one thing OSX is hugely processor hungry. For >>> another, >>> I'm sorry to say, but it isn't 64 bit either, thats just some BS the >>> Macintosh marketing department fed you. So before you go ranting on >>> Microsoft, I think you should pause and think about how Mac's are >>> largely >>> way more expensive than an equivalent windows machine, and Macintosh >>> is just >>> as likely to lie to you as any other big company. Also, regarding >>> the >>> spyware, that has nothing to do with windows, spyware is a legitimate >>> software in the eyes of the OS, it's just legitimate software that >>> spys on >>> you... Spyware does not exploit a flaw in a the system... It can >>> just >>> as >>> easily show up in a friggin Unix supercomputer should someone feel >>> the >>> need >>> to write such a program. What would be the use of writing a Mac >>> virus?? >>> Yeah imagine the chaos when artists around the world can't doctor up >>> their >>> image files... It's not quite the same as costing corporations >>> billions now >>> is it?? Or using a virus to DOS a large website like SCO and >>> Microsoft??? >>> You couldn't do that writing virii for a Mac, and thats why you don't >>> see >>> them for the Mac. >>> >>> -Shawn >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:25 AM >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME >>> >>> >>> I don't need to. I also use Mac OSX, which is virus free and works >>> like >>> a dream come true. But that doesnt mean that I should not be >>> dissatisfied with shoddy workmanship. I guess if Windows were a small >>> bit player I would give them some more slack - but the market leading >>> de facto world standard in computing? I think they should be doing >>> betterl, a lot better. >>> Antonio >>> On 18 May 2004, at 17:17, Bill Owens wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Antonio Aparicio" Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> What happened, did I run into a room full of Microsoft >>>>>> shareholders >>>>>> or >>>>>> something? All I said was that Windows was a substandard operating >>>>>> system and that it was riddled with viruses and spyware and that >>>>>> we >>>>>> the >>>>>> users deserved better, especially given the money the company >>>>>> makes. >>>> >>>> If you're so dissatisfied, invent an operating system to replace it. >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>> >> >
