The new Leica Digilux 2 has the first-ever built in pop-up flash that also does bounce. See http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/leicadigilux2/page4.asp and scroll down about halfway for pics.

Bounce flash does need a significant amount of light to work, depending on height of the ceiling, color of the ceiling and walls, and even how close to the floor your camera is positioned.

Joe



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Lee"
Subject: Re: Pro uses pop-up flash!


I know this sounds like a potentially naive question, but is there
a reason
we don't see pop up flashes with bounce head? It doesn't seem that
hard to
alter the design to do, and it's not like the RTF is too weak to
bounce
altogether- I'm sure it's strong enough to do a cosy basic
scenario. Just a
thought because quite often, in my use, it seems to be more useful
in
daylight conditions to fill in harsh shadows, while in darker
scenarios it
seems to Weegee the scene even if I use a really slow flash sync-
almost
like the flash is dialed is preset a stop or 2 too bright. I've
contemplated
having a piece of translucent tape permanently on as a diffuser,
but am a
bit hesitant, because I figure it could just be me with sloppy
technique..
Any thoughts?

If you check the guide number of the little things, I think you will find that they are probably quite a bit too weak to be usable as a bounce flash, especially considering that the manufacturer of the camera is presuming that the thing will see most use by people with f/4 zoom lenses, rather than f/1.4 primes. Treat it as a conveneint way to add a bit of light to the scene, enough to put a sparkle in a young girl's eye, but not much else.

William Robb




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