> > ARE Pentax dropping the MZ-S?
> 
> They are. I've been told that in practice you can no longer sell anything
> costing more than 100 $ and using film, including MF. Only sub-100 $
> compacts resist, because you still cannot get a decent digicam in that price
> range.
> 
> Dario

And yet Nikon is dropping their film compacts...

Realistically a good digital P&S is still more expensive than the $225
entry-level film SLRs.  Presumably this accounts for the number of new 
cameras introduced in the last couple of years in this price range.
 
> From: Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> I have been told, by a Nikon sponsored pro, that there will be no new Nikon
> SLR film camera. Now I guess the question is what does new mean? Would a 
>slightly modified F5 count as new or not?

Given Nikon's past history, I wouldn't trust the statement of a "Nikon 
sponsored pro" to be all that well-informed.

There are persistent rumors of a new film camera, presumed to be an "F6", 
in the Nikon community.  I'm not sure I believe them, because the F-series
sold primarily to pros and rich snooty amateurs, almost all of whom now
shoot DSLRs.  Who would buy an F6?  Apparently, nobody is buying F5s.
The price of a used F5 has dropped $400 or so in a year.  
What "slight modifications" could be put into an F5 anyway?  Perhaps the 
AF system of the D2H, to appeal to the 3 pros still using Nikon film 
cameras?

This might account for the apparent impending demise of the MZ-S. 
 People who are going to spend that kind of money on a top-of-the-line 
camera are buying the *istD, or Canon.  The pool of serious, film-using 
amateurs who will spend almost a grand on a camera must be very small.  
If  the MZ-S DOES disappear, either something has to replace it or I would 
expect the "pro" lenses to start to disappear as well.  Do they really 
think you're going to put a 300/2.8 FA* on a film *ist?   Apparently people do
occasionally buy them, since the A*s are still somewhat availible, and the
FA*s are apparently still in production. 

If Nikon put out a new film camera, I would expect it to be lower down
the market than the F-series so as to be an advanced amateur camera that 
could be used as a basis for a D100 successor, say an "N95".  It would 
presumably fit in the line between the $1000 F100 (upon which the D1 
series was based) and the $400 N80 (upon which the D100 was based).
Problem is, can you sell a $600-750 film SLR anymore?  Pentax doesn't
seem to think so.  It may also be the case that you don't need to or
can't have a volume-sales film camera to base a DSLR on any more.
Consider that the D2H is the first DSLR from Nikon (or Canon, I think) 
that is NOT based on a film SLR and has technologies that are NOT 
availible in any of the company's film cameras.  I'm not going to believe 
that digital has killed film until we start seeing a lot more DSLRs that 
are not based on film SLRs.

I'm very curious why the *istD is not in fact a digitized version of the 
*ist.

DJE



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