Dave,

The crops and adjustments were just to show possibilities, explore options,
get the viewer to think about alternatives.  With a few examples there'd be
enough places for others to jump off and put their own interpretation into
the photo, with color, cropping, tonality, and so on.  A point can be made
for any of the crops, maybe even a combination of them.  One thing I didn't
do was spend any great amount of time on the photo.  I just fiddled quickly
and if something looked interesting, I used it, whether it be color,
tonality, or cropping.  This is something of how I work with my own images.


I'll scan every frame on a roll, maybe view them as a slide show, find the
ones that show the most promise, and work with them, seeing how they can be
improved.  It's just like in a chemical darkroom.  You make contacts and
proof prints, hang 'em on the wall for a while, look at 'em again and
again, and soon the final photograph emerges.

I don't know what you mean when you say "My question about your procedure
here Shell is it really color or B&W."

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: David Miers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 6/20/2004 10:04:57 PM
> Subject: RE: Gaurav's PAW #7: Why me?
>
> Just a few more cents...
>
> I really like this picture.  I have to ask here, did you intend to cut the
> man in half, and is the man cut in half the boss?  I imagine that possibly
> this could be an artistic statement of the evil half of the boss or
> something.  Knowing what was going on here really helped make this image
> interesting.  I noted that none of the crops done by Shel eliminated this,
> so I'm guessing he had a certain fascination with it as well.  It breaks
the
> rules, but is an example of rule breaking that works IMHO.  Of course that
> sort of depends to a point on whether it was an accident or on
purpose..lol
> 8).  I doubt that anyone will argue though that some of the best images
out
> there were accidents.  However thinking about it will certainly improve
your
> success rate.  Shel your pulling me over to the dark side more and more
> here, B&W that is.  This image was made for it.  The skin tone with the
> pinkish tone was actually nicer, but when eliminated to be what was
probably
> more correct was not as attractive.  Another reason for might as well go
> B&W.
>
> The tightest crop in B&W has the most impact I think, however it brings
the
> half man in to close and this fails to work artistically for me now.  You
> fail to see the half mans hand on hip as well which gives him some of his
> attitude I guess you'd call it.  Actually I think even the tight crop
pulls
> the half man in too close.  I think I would use the original crop in B&W
if
> it were mine.  I think it's important that that half man out of focus not
be
> pulled in too close here.  The expression on his face is best left to the
> imagination with just a hint of the smile to be seen in the fuzzy focus.
>
> Now I too have to try Shell's method of conversion of color to B&W.  I
never
> just convert to grayscale anymore, but often times will just desaturate
the
> image and adjust levels and contrast from there.  The biggest reason for
me
> to do this is because I have found that grain filters etc do not work
nearly
> as well on grey scale images.  My question about your procedure here Shell
> is it really color or B&W.  I guess if it looks good, what the heck!


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