You seem to forget that the transmitted light forms a cone, not a cylinder. 
All the best!
Raimo K
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http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 5:12 AM
Subject: RE: Scratch on rear element


> What kind of vague reply is that? Not sure what that is supposed to
> mean.
> You were "sucked in" by me?, no you were sucked in my yourself.
> If you want to "experiment", try looking at the physical construction
> of a lens. You will see that as a diaphram closes down and the angle of
> view
> remains the same as it does for a fixed format like 35mm, APS DSLR, or
> P67,
> that the outer glass on the rear elements gets obscured by the diaphram.
> If no light is passing thru those areas, "crud", scratches, cracks,
> seperation,
> coating problems, etc in those areas DOES NOT AFFECT IMAGE WHATSOEVER.
> Hence, by stopping down you can elimanate those problems, they do not
> become
> more visible, they become less visable, Invisiable actually. Exactly the
> opposite of what you rudely contended which is what promted my reply.
> JCO
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Scratch on rear element
> 
> 
> On 28 Jul 2004 at 19:35, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> 
> > You don't seem to have a clue as to how lenses work especially with 
> > regard to the diaphram. As you stop down the diameter of the optical 
> > path is reduced proportinally. If there are scratches , etc on  the
> > ***perimeter*** of the rear element and the lens is stopped down enuff
> > taking
> > the angle of view into account, the "crud" on the 
> > perimeter is often COMPLETELY OUT OF THE OPTICAL PATH, I.E. IT IS
> > IRELLAVANT AND HAS ZERO AFFECT ON THE IMAGE FORMED
> > BY THE LENS!
> 
> Slapping myself for even getting sucked into responding to JCO :-(
> 
> David, when you come over next we will determine experimentally if it
> does or 
> doesn't have an effect. Unfortunately I doubt that Kennedys will want
> anything 
> at all to do with it particularly WRT replacing rear elements. I'll have
> a go 
> repairing it and if I break it I'll replace it.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Rob Studdert
> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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> Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
> 

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