There�s a contradiction here. The description by William of how lenses work
is correct but the conclusion about JC�s description is... well...
All the best!
Raimo K
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 4:44 AM
Subject: Re: Scratch on rear element


> Correct me if I am wrong, but do lenses not use the entire rear
> element, independent of aperture?
>
> I know with large format lenses, stopping one down will increase the
> size of the image circle enough to allow more movements.
> My 65mm doesn't even cover 4x5 until around f/22.
>
> When checking to see if I am free from vignetting, I was taught to
> sight from the corners of the screen, and check to see if I can see
> the entire iris through the edge of the rear element. This angle
> increases as the lens stops down.
> My view camera has corner cutouts on the ground glass to allow this
> procedure as part of the stock feature set.
>
> What this effect has on a fixed lens is to push small flaws near the
> edge of the rear element out of the image area. Whether the flaw is
> an optical aberation or a physical defect doesn't matter.
>
> Stopping down increases the image circle.
>
> JC, you are correct, though your wording isn't quite right.
>
> I can't believe I wrote this.
>
> William Robb
>
>
>
> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> >
> > > You don't seem to have a clue as to how lenses work
> > > especially with regard to the diaphram. As you stop
> > > down the diameter of the optical path is reduced
> > > proportinally. If there are scratches , etc on  the
> > > ***perimeter*** of the rear element and the lens is stopped down
> enuff
> > > taking
> > > the angle of view into account, the "crud" on the
> > > perimeter is often COMPLETELY OUT OF THE OPTICAL PATH, I.E. IT IS
> > > IRELLAVANT AND HAS ZERO AFFECT ON THE IMAGE FORMED
> > > BY THE LENS!
> >
>
>
>

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