I'm sorry but your digital workflow listed below is not simpler than
35mm film.
The 35mm camera is simpler, even a sosphisticated one, and it is much
easier to unload a film cassette and drop off then to have to
download and review and edit photos  on a PC before dropping off.

There are still plenty of people who don't want to and maybe don't
even know how to use the more complicated digicams and PCs. So I do
not agree with your original statement that digital is simpler
than 35mm film from a user standpoint, quite the contrary.

JCO

-----Original Message-----
From: billy abbott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Billy Abbott
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 2:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: It's over (was Re: Ilford in trouble? and digi snappers)


On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

> 35mm Film is EASIER than digital, that's why a lot of people still use

> 35mm. Take the pix with autoeverything camera, drop off the film, get 
> a bag full of prints.

Or take your digital P&S, review the pictures on the screen on the back,

deleted the ones you don't like and then drop off the memory card and
get 
back a bag full of prints that you have chosen out of the ones that you 
took.

Most people I know who shoot digital with a P&S don't play around with 
their pictures in photoshop or anything - they treat the camera just
like 
a film one, but with the ability to delete the ones they don't want and 
then also email/website-ify the pictures without having to scan.

This makes, in my opinion and that of my digitally enabled 
non-photographically obsessed friends, it easier to shoot digital. For
the 
pro's and hobbyists I can see some elements that are more difficult 
(learning photoshop/whatever and then tweaking the images you want), but

it has enough benefits (consumables cost, ease of storage etc) that i
see 
those mainly outweighed in the long run.

That said, I got my digital camera (a P&S that got me into taking photos

again a little while back) out for the first time in months yesterday. I

still shoot film because I like it as it's part of a different process 
(to me) than using a digicam.

billy (who ended up shooting weird low light experimental abstracty
shots 
with the digicam - the sort of thing that would burn through rolls of
film 
in my "real" camera - and now has some new ideas of some things to try
on 
film)

-- 
"Your Honor, ladies and gentleman of the, of the audience, I don't think
it's fair to call my clients frauds. Okay, so the blackout was a big 
problem for everybody, okay? I was stuck in an elevator for two hours, 
and I had to make the whole time. But, I don't blame them, 'cause one
time 
I turned into a dog and they helped me. Thank you."
  Billy Abbott                     billy at cowfish dot org dot uk

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