John Coyle mused: > > Cotty, man, 17C and shirt-sleeves?!?!?!?! That's our night-time winter > temperature, when we all rug up in our cardies and drink hot chocolate in > front of a fire (usually artificial, of course: they don't build many > Queensland homes with chimneys nowadays!) > > John Coyle > Brisbane, Australia (where it's midnight, 24C and time for bed!)
Back when I lived in New England I often ventured outside in T-shirt and jeans in below-freezing temperatures; extra layers were only for when it got below 20F (-7C). Now, in sunny Silivon Valley it might get down to 17C on cold days, and that's definitely cold enough for the natives to wrap up warm. (That's assuming you can *find* a California native; the majority of the population appears to have moved here from somewhere else).
