that's not the reason, see my last post.
Errors in aperture setting sensing and 
actual apetures at exposure are the reason
why stop down metering will always be
more accurate ( if even VERY slightly)
than open aperture metering.
JCO

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Wilensky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Stop Down Metering on K, M, LX


I've seen discussion of this as a possible exposure factor only with 
the combination of both stop-down metering AND a camera that takes an 
average reading of the entire focusing screen, rather than a 
centerweighted reading. The idea is that lenses that vignette a bit 
wide open may cause slight inaccuracies in cameras that meter wide 
open and also take a full-frame average reading. Centerweighted 
meters give far less weight to the corners of the frame and this 
point is probably moot for those cameras.

It's all probably quite insignificant.

Joe



>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>Hi Christian,
>>
>>A couple of reasons.  First, a week or so back JCO made the assertion 
>>that by metering thru a lens set at the taking aperture, measuring the

>>actual light transited rather than having the camera essentially 
>>calculate the exposure, would result in a more accurate, or precise, 
>>exposure.  I'd like to see if there's any truth to that, and if 
>>there's any practical difference.
>>
>
>My guess would be that the difference would be so tiny as to be
>insignificant.  Esp with film since there is so much latitude.
>
>But if you are really interested in testing this, an interesting way
>to do this would be to use Mark's trick with the *istD, that is, 
>mount the lens so that it is not fully locked, to a position such 
>that the lever that keeps the aperture wide open is not engaged.  I 
>believe he said it was about 1/8 of a turn or so, but check with 
>him.  This is ok for tests like you want to do, but I would not 
>recommend this for everyday shooting, as the lens is in somewhat of 
>a precarious situation not fully locked in and could fall off.
>
>>Also, I want to compare two similar lenses, one being a Super Tak that

>>can only be used stopped down on K bodies and the other being a K 
>>mount version of the lens.  It would seem that if the metering styles 
>>used were the same (assuming there IS any difference as suggested by 
>>JCO), the comparison between the two lenses may be more accurate.
>>
>>However, I doubt that I'd want to shoot that way when making regular 
>>photographs.
>>
>>Oh, there's a third reason:  I've just a little too much time on my 
>>hands right now <LOL>
>>
>>Shel
>>
>>>[Original Message]
>>>From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>>>  > Is there a way to use a K-mount lens on the K, M, or LX bodies 
>>> with
>>
>>stop
>>
>>>  > down metering instead of having to use open aperture?
>>
>>
>>>Just a silly question, and forgive my ignorance, but why would you 
>>>want
>>
>>to?


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