Beach near Orleans, MA (still very much *on shore*) is shown to have 
limiting magnitude 6.3 (-69.96399, 41.88289)
Orleans, MA 5.7

Boston 2.6
NYC 2.4

middle of the Atlantic ocean 6.8

Quite a difference, what do you think?

And, believe me, the skies there  (cape cod shore) are quite dark
indeed. Especially
off-season :)

Best,
Mishka

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:28:08 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd check the results for Cape Cod before making any claims, Putting
> "home" halfway between Provincetown and Northeastham the darksky results
> are on an arc about 40 miles off shore towards the middle of the North
> Atlantic...
> 
> 
> 
> Mishka wrote:
> 
> >amita said she's going to cape cod. that's more than 20 miles "offshore" and
> >the skies there, although not quite like in AZ, are pretty dark.
> >
> >best,
> >mishka
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:34:18 -0500, Peter J. Alling
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Interesting but not very useful if you live in a light polluted place
> >>like the NE US.  Every dark spot suggested is
> >>20 miles offshore...  (I didn't even look at where it put Amita from her
> >>location in New York, but I doubt she'd
> >>want to tread water at this time of yea)r.  Still playing with it was fun.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Tim Sherburne wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>On 11/8/04 0:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I'm no expert on this but I think you may find that, virtually anywhere 
> >>>>in the
> >>>>NE USA, light pollution will inhibit decent results.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>This might help in anyone's quest for dark sky:
> >>>
> >>><http://www.darksky.org/ida/darksky/>
> >>>
> >>>[Mike offers more good advice, then...]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>You can hear birds singing at 4.00am in the winter, here.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Mike, I can't speak for your area, but I think some species of songbirds
> >>>birds have a habit of rising early in general. There's something called the
> >>>"dawn chorus" that gets going in the early morning hours in some parts of
> >>>the world.
> >>>
> >>>t
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>--
> >>I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
> >>During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
> >>and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
> >>peacetime.
> >>        --P.J. O'Rourke
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
> During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
> and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
> peacetime.
>         --P.J. O'Rourke
> 
>

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