For candid portraits I prefer something longer than 135. Even with an 85, 
you're only a half dozen feet away or so. With a e00, you can hide around the 
corner:-).
Paul


> Good points.
> One of my posts doesn't seem to have made it to the list.
> I referrred to the 85 as "candid portrait" lens on the D.
> By this I mean a lens which allows a comfortable and 
> inconspicuous working distance with little distortion of
> features.
> Also fast enough to focus manually (ie:without obnoxious
> flashes or beam) in very low light.
> The speed is not as much for DOF control as for focusing.
> I usually shoot at 5.6-8 to allow some room for error and
> to ensure all facial features are sharp.
> To me a fast 80-90 fills this bill well, (a little longer
> on 35mm) the 85/1.9 also does a fine job on skin tones and
> I like the Bokeh.
> (Now that I can pronounce it I'll use it!) ;-)
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 7:56 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Was it really worth that much?
> > 
> > 
> > On 16 Dec 2004 at 18:26, Don Sanderson wrote:
> > 
> > > "Hoovers"? As in vacuums [vacuums suck ;-)], as in bad?
> > 
> > I don't know, the 77mm is Ok for me, bokeh is nice and smooth, 
> > wide open it's 
> > fine too, it may be too sharp for some though. I must admit that 
> > I'm a little 
> > confused over all this portrait lens talk though, what 
> > constitutes an official 
> > "portrait lens" ? My portrait lenses span 15mm to 300mm. I'd hate 
> > to be stuck 
> > in a photo hell where portraits have to be shot using an 85mm 
> > lens between f2 
> > and f2.8 :-(
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Rob Studdert
> > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> > Tel +61-2-9554-4110
> > UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
> > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
> > 
> 

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