In a message dated 1/24/2005 2:58:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL 
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writes:
And I do agree that it is confusing that I sometimes switch from my 
perspective to the opponents.  To simplify things:  To me, a photograph 
is always a lie, since it always represents the photographers personal 
representation of something.

DagT
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Just to confuse things... Your above statement implies that there is some 
objective truth. Something concrete "out there" that is true. And that 
subjectivity, by its very nature, because it is one person's viewpoint, is a 
lie. I 
believe, however, that there is no objectivity --no separate universal truth. 

What exists or doesn't exist or appears to exist "out there" must always be 
filtered through our own lens; passed through our own subjectivity. We cannot 
ever truly stand outside ourselves, outside our own heads, outside our own 
world view. If there is a universal concrete truth (which I do not believe), we 
cannot actually perceive untainted. We always perceive it through our own 
subjective experience.

Whew. Probably not clear. (And I think I am losing myself in my own argument. 
:-))

OTOH, I think photojournalism as used in reporting, is a tricky area and 
anything that manipulates an image to present something that was not 
*apparently* 
there in the first place, could well be a "lie." In that case, the photography 
should admit any manipulation.

Marnie ;-)

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