I have two Tokina 400mm F5.6 lenses. One is a RMC 400mm F5.6 IF in M42
mount 
and the other is the AT-X 400mm F5.6 IF in PK mount. Both are
exceptionally
good on film. I can recommend them strongly as they are not very
expensive
and represent great values.
JCO

-----Original Message-----
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Opinions about Tokinas (Was Sigmas)


Mark, 

That lens has done an *excellent* job of capturing the breast feathers'
structure. I used to keep birds (parrots mostly) and that's what their
breast feathers look like when seen close up. Robins are much the same. 

Godfrey

--- Mark Cassino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.markcassino.com/temp/robin/
> 
> This shot was taken with the Tokina 400mm ATX, handheld. ...
> 
> I guess I'd have to find a bird and hold it in my hand to know for 
> sure, but I really question the detail in the feathers.
They
> look like hairs, not feathers. My conclusion was that a low resolving 
> lens with low CA and high edge sharpness - which is what my tests 
> showed the ATX 400 to be - will create an image with clean edges and a

> high degree of _apparent_ detail. I say apparent detail because I 
> don't think the birds breast
feathers
> would really look like that, I think that the primary ribs of
the
> feathers have been exaggerated and the connecting fibers have been all

> but lost in this shot. Psychologically, one looks at that and thinks 
> "Wow - what detail!" but I really question
that.
> 
> Maybe I can find a natural history museum with a robin
specimen
> and can confirm my suspicions...



                
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