Hi,

What Bob said <g>.

After reading Bob's message and his comments about the Domke straps,
I realized that the strap on my Domkes are so comfortable and easy
to use (i.e., no twisting) that I don't even think about them.  The
strap on the Tamrac has always been a bit of an annoyance, something
that I've come to accept as "normal" with many bags.

Another feature of the standard Domke strap is that the inside, the
part that comes in contact with the person, has a material on it
that affords a great grip.  It's not rubber, but sticks well so that
the bag does not slide around, yet the grip is soft enough that,
should you want to reposition the bag, it can be done very easily. 
Great straps!  I think Domke calls 'em Gripper-T straps.

I bought my Domke bags in July or August of last year, and the F-803
has gotten more use in that time than any camera bag I've ever
owned.  It's used almost every day, and it's starting to break in
very nicely.  The analogy to jeans is an especially good one.  My
bags are the sand colored ones, so it would seem that they'd show
dirt more than the olive or black bags, but the F-803 still looks
quite good.  

It should be noted that some models are available in both canvas and
ballistic nylon, and some come in the fancier, leather-trimmed,
Emerald edition.  I'd imagine the ballistic nylon bags might look
"neater" longer than the canvas bags, but I do love the more natural
look and feel of the canvas.

Thanks for the pointer to the Tenba bags.  Good comments about those
have popped up on various lists, although I've never seen one.  Some
of them look quite interesting, and if they're well constructed, may
be a good choice.
-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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Bob Walkden wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 'me too' to everything Shel writes. The Domkes are not only useful for
> carrying a ton of gear around in, but they are also good for working
> out of. I have the F2 and the F1-X for use under different
> circumstances; recently I've been using the F2 more than the F1-X, but
> that may change. I've had the F2 for about 4 years and it's been in
> some pretty wild places and held up well. They are tough. The metal
> bits are all made to some military standard and feel as though they'll
> last forever. The shoulder strap never twists or kinks, so the load
> remains evenly spread.
> 
> I have 2 criticisms of the Domke bags. They don't make it easy to lash
> a small tripod, such as a Mannfrotto 190, to them, and the insert
> system has a gap in it: there should be some inserts that divide the
> bags diagonally so I can put a camera+80-200 and camera+28-85 in
> conveniently. I plan to get somebody to make up a suitable insert for
> me, though.
> 
> I also have a Domke satchel, the F-802, which is for boring work
> purposes rather than photography.
> 
> For a while I had the backpack attachment and that was quite useful as
> a stop gap, but a properly designed backpack is better for these
> purposes. I don't know what happened to that; I think it may have gone
> during my burglary and I've only just realised.
> 
> As Shel says, they are easily washable. They pick up dirt quite
> quickly, so for somebody who likes to look trim and well-manicured at
> all times they may not be perfect. But they develop a faded, broken-in,
> well-used look rather like good Levis. The strap on my F2 has a
> reddish colour which won't wash out. It is exactly the same colour as
> the soil in the Ethiopian Highlands above the Blue Nile Gorge, so I
> don't mind :o)
> 
> Another brand which is often overlooked these days is Tenba. A friend of
> mine has had one of their bags for almost 20 years and its still going
> strong. Well worth a look. http://www.tenba.com/camera/camerabag.htm
> 
> As usual, my best recommendation to you is to put aside an hour or so
> and go into a camera shop which has a good selection of bags, and try
> them out with your own equipment to see what works for you.
> 
> ---
> 
>  Bob
> 
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Monday, May 28, 2001, 2:43:58 AM, you wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> 
> > Bags are such a personal item, and one's choice is dependent not
> > only on the gear one carries, but why you're carrying it and what
> > you're shooting style is. Since you've not mentioned either your
> > gear or your style, it would be hard to offer a recommendation.
> > However, I can share some experiences.
> 
> > I bought a Tamrac a couple of years ago, and it seemed like a good
> > idea at the time.  However, I now rarely use it.  It's more of a
> > backup bag than anything else.  It has become rather "soft" and
> > feels as though it's not built to last.
> 
> > I bought a LowePro and feel it's better made.  However, I rarely use
> > it.
> 
> > I then learned about Domke, and I am happy.  The bags are heavy duty
> > canvas, strong and tough, and many of them can be tossed into the
> > washing machine.  They're not overly padded, and allow quick access
> > to ones gear.  Domke makes a few satchel bags, and one that
> > generally gets rave reviews is the F-803 satchel. It's perfect for a
> > couple of cameras and a few lenses, plus it has pockets for a good
> > amount of incidentals.  A great feature is that it doesn't look like
> > a camera bag.
> 
> > They also make other satchels and some more typical camera bags, in
> > which you can carry as much gear as you'll ever need.  They also
> > have small bags which are inconspicuous and ideal for day shooting.
> > Most people I know who have purchased a Domke, purchase additional
> > Domke bags.  Most people I know who have never seen a Domke,
> > purchase one after having seen one.
> 
> > To check out the Domke line, go here:
> > http://www.saundersphoto.com/html/domkest.htm
> 
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