I waited until I had some time to experiment with this and talk about it at the same time...

Cotty wrote:

On 28/3/05, Keith Whaley, discombobulated, unleashed:
I inserted an SD card (as used by my Optio S4) into my Lexar Media card reader, and a drive icon appeared on my desktop.

Correct.

I clicked that, and iPhoto opened,

Hmm, the icon of your SD card is a mounted disk, and when double-clicked,
it should open a Finder window, not iPhoto.... however, I did the same
with a CF card and opened iPhoto manually. I don't use iPhoto, but I can
see that it is very similar ti iTunes, which I *do* use, so....

I just did it again, to verify. As soon as I inserted the SD card in it's viewer, which is attached to the CPU by way of a powered USB hub, the drive icon appeared on my desktop, iPhoto appeared righ away and showed the thumbnails in the Photo Library.


...with thumbnails of all my card's photos.

Did you import them? That's what I had to do.

Nope. they just appeared.

> Once imported, then you can
eject the card. Put the card back in the camera and erase all on the card
if desired, or reformat the card. Either way it deletes all the images
from the card. Always do this in the camera, not in the computer.

Some 113, as I recall... I moved several to the trash,

How did you trash them? Did you drag them to the iPhoto's trash can in
the panel on the left of the window? Or did you drag them to the Finder's
trash in the dock?

I've done them both ways, but ONLY to the iPhoto trash can. One way is, select the image(s) and in menu bar, select File, Move to Trash. Or, select image(s) and click-drag them to the trash. it _seems_ to work both ways. But then, I had troubles, didn't I.

then made new folders that appeared in the left hand side panel.

When you make a 'new folder' that appears in the left hand side panel,
you are making a 'New Album'. This is the same as making a new playlist
in an MP3 player, like iTunes. The albums at left are simply a viewing
order for looking at pictures.

Uh, okay. I understand that. Nothing wrong with that. I have titles like "Xmas '04", "New Lawn," stuff like that. Totally different subjects. Ten to maybe 160 images each.


The actual pictures themselves reside in
the Photo Library, which should appear always at the top left of the left
hand panel. If you look in there, you may find your pictures are still there.

Even if I move them to individual folders? Which means I'm really only _copying_ them to the folders, right?
Okay, I don't recall if I knew that or not. I will keep that in mind.


Deleting pictures from an album *does not* delete them from iPhoto - they
will still be in the Photo Library. If you delete them from the Photo
Library, then they are deleted. This is one of the reasons not to delete
anything from a media card (like your SD card) at the computer.

Well, the only thing I've ever deleted was what was in the left hand panel's Trash can!
I 'filled' the trash can with unwanted images that appeared in the main window, which were from the Photo Library, or one of the folders.
I moved unwanted images to the trash can, one by one, until all I had left in the Photo Library and the individual folders were what I wanted to save...
What a joke!


Keep all
safe on the card until you have got everything the way you want it in
your chosen method of viewing/storage. Only then delete the SD card
images, and only then, back in the camera.

Delete images ONLY from the card itself, and ONLY when that card is in the camera?
Is that what you're saying?
No, I did not do it that way. I may need retraining! <g>


I named the folders, and moved most of the remaining thumbnails into their respective folders. Nice and neat.
I trashed a few more,

Trashed them from the Photo Library? Or from an individually created new
album?

Well, I think from the new albums.

then randomly checked the content of the various folders, to see if everything was okay, which is was, in terms of
>> containing what I wanted to save, and finally emptied the trash...

GASP!!! All of my folders emptied out! Not a single image left! The folders were still there, but when I highlited each one, the text down at the bottom said "0 images." Egad!

Look in the Photo Library - are they gone from there??

Don't know. I didn't check. Holy SPIT! I was so stunned, I sat back and had another Newcastle!


Fortunately, I had previously put all the images in various other folders on my hard drive, so I was able to find the images again, but still... scared the heck out of me!

I personally do not use an application to import images from a media card
onto the computer. I do it manually, as i suspect the majority of people do.

Well, I might too, except that iPhoto opens right away and it's convenient, so I use it!


Vis:

Mount the card on the desktop, open it, see the images inside. Drag them
into freshly created new folders in the area where I keep my pics,

But, on your H.D., not in anything like iPhoto... right?

...so that they copy across. Then i eject the card and place it on my desk,
where it waits. Next, open Photoshop and use the File Browser (a
glorified iPhoto) to view the pics and individually delete any no-hopers.

Ahh, you see, I'm so busy with 26 other (non-photographic) tasks right now, I haven't even opened my brand new copy of Photoshop Elements!
But, since you brought it up, I may actively retire iPhoto and replace it with PE.


When I am satisfied that all is now safely stowed properly (little flying
term for you Keith ;-)

Well, nautical, anyhow... <g>

...then the card goes into the camera and all the
pics are deleted right away so that the card is ready to accept new pics.

Yes. In-camera. I hear you clearly!

HTH

Me too. I'll keep it handy until it becomes 2nd nature to me. Many thanks for taking the time to assist me!

Cheers,
  Cotty

You too. I just drained my tot of Glenmorangie. Mmmmm, good! Later, keith



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