True enough. So far, those who have expressed confidence in their film processing labs are in LA or San Francisco. We have at least one good pro lab here in Detroit, but, like they're pro clientele, they've gone pretty much over to digital and their film work is now very expensive. The mini lab that used to do good work for me has gone downhill. All the film comes back dirty now.
Paul


On Apr 16, 2005, at 11:39 PM, Mishka wrote:

lucky you. i tried labs in boston (lots) and nyc (some). both, 1-hr type
and "pro" labs. haven't seen one that would give me back a remotely
reasonable set of prints.
of course, if i were to order "custom" prints -- that's a different story.
and a totally different price point.
the way i see it, the lack of reasonably priced processing/printing
basically forces digital down my throat. when i pay $20 to get a set of
lousy 4x6s that would make me want to yell, an inkjet starts looking
*very* attractive. oversharpened or not.


best,
mishka

On 4/16/05, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Y'a know, I'm sure there's a plethora of, well, let's just say "ordinary"
labs out there that are running 35mm through the machines and just
robot-like punching the buttons to select the machine's suggestion for
correction, if any, to be applied to prints. No doubt some labs are
stretching a little on their chemicals too. For some, it may be about money,
for others it may be about apathy. There are also labs out there where they
make every effort to insure that first of all, your negatives (positives)
will be the best that can be produced, given what you tell them, and that
the results will be uniformly excellent. I gave up on the small (1 hour
type) labs long ago when my negs were just not up to snuff, and especially
when I had some come back that looked like film that hadn't been in the hypo
long enough. I gave up on the department mega Wal-Mart stores when I
couldn't get decent printing. Right now, I gave up on the photography
superstores like Samy's when I couldn't talk with the techs any more. Now I
get everything done at Pro Photo Connection in Irvine, CA. They have an
impressive big money client list with many of their sometimes famous photos
on their walls and they want to keep it that way. Now, I'm a hack and they
treat me the same as the big money clients! It's great to turn in a roll of
35, 120, 220 - whatever, and ask for whatever I want (within reason - push
1, push 2, pull 1, etc.) and have things turn out like I expected with
perfect negatives and decent initial prints for proofs. It's also great to
be able to mark off areas of a print for differing amounts of exposure and
actually get what I want. They aren't cheap, but they are good and they are
dependable.


Regards,
Bob...
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"A picture is worth a thousand  words,
but it uses up three thousand times the  memory."

From: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

So you cannot parse a short english sentence.
That's all.

Mishka

even more (by a huge margin) stuff that's produced from film
in the labs stinks.
so?

So you are a bad printer. Thats all.






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