Too much math, not enough photography .... I don't understand the need for
equations, nor do I understand the math, the equations, or your conclusion.

Like I said, the field of view, regardless of your math, is greater with
the Zenitar than it is with a 20mm lens on a 35mm camera. Have you looked
through both focal lengths on a 35mm camera?  Have you actually compared
photos side-by-side?

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Cory Papenfuss 

>       Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my post.  I scoured the 'net for 
> some equations on rectilinear vs. fisheye projections horizontal and 
> vertical FOV.  They're approximate (especially for the fisheye), but are 
> as follows:
>
> Rectilinear:  FOV = 2 atan (image size/(2*focal length))
> Fisheye:      FOV = 4 asin (image size/(4*focal length))
>
> Given 35mm film size of 35.8x24.3mm, and the -DS sensor at 23.5x15.7mm, 
> you get these numbers (in degrees X by Y landscape mode):
>
> 20mm Rect: 83x63 (35mm), 61x43 (1.5 crop)
> 14mm Rect: 104x82 (35mm), 80x59 (1.5 crop)
> 16mm Fish: 136x89 (35mm), 86x57 (1.5 crop)
>
>       So, what I *meant* to say is that FOV of the fisheye is about 
> equivalent to a 13-14mm rectilinear lens on the -DS, or a 20mm
rectilinear 
> lens on a full-frame 35mm body.
>
> -Cory
>
>   On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
> > Huh!
> >
> > I've used a 16mm Zenitar, an 18mm and 20mm Pentax on a 35mm camera.  The
> > Zenitar isn't a 20mm ... it's CONSIDERABLY wider than the 20mm and the
> > 18mm.  How do you arrive at the conclusion that the 16mm Zenitar
equates to
> > 20mm coverage on 35mm?
> >
> > Shel
> >
> >> On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:31:44 -0400 (EDT), Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> >>
> >>> Anyway, the 16mm Zenitar fisheye can be had for $100-$150 and
> >>> equates to about 20mm coverage on a 35mm, or 13-14mm
> >>> rectilinear on a 1.5 cropped body.
> >
> >
>
>
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> * Cory Papenfuss                                                        *
> * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student               *
> * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University                   *
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