Shel wrote:
> 
> Sure, there are any number of reasons why someone may want to convert a neg
> to a digital file in order to make a print (damaged neg, need for digital
> file for professional reasons, making major adjustments that can't or which
> would be very difficult to do otherwise), but there are those that just do
> such a conversion of perfectly good negs as a matter of course, and for the
> life of me I cannot figure out why that may be in some circumstances.

The answer is simple: Most lab techs can't hit their ass with both hands. 
Halfway decent optical color prints are almost impossible to find. And even if 
you find a good tech, color, contrast, saturation, and all the other variables 
are then his decision, not yours. I suffered along with labs for a quarter of a 
century. Never again. 
Paul


> This has nothing to do with a film v digital debate.  My comment was in
> response to Bob's and pointed out something I find rather odd which deals,
> not with digital, but with film.  Lighten up, Godfrey ... ;-))  Doesn't it
> seem odd to you that someone would take a perfectly good negative and
> reduce its quality by running it through a scanner and photo editing
> software when a perfectly fine print could be made directly from the
> original negative?  Or are you so enmeshed in the digital workflow that the
> concept of working directly with a negative is little more than a vague
> memory?
> 
> Sure, there are any number of reasons why someone may want to convert a neg
> to a digital file in order to make a print (damaged neg, need for digital
> file for professional reasons, making major adjustments that can't or which
> would be very difficult to do otherwise), but there are those that just do
> such a conversion of perfectly good negs as a matter of course, and for the
> life of me I cannot figure out why that may be in some circumstances.
> 
> Shel 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Date: 5/15/2005 9:15:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: Leica digital back no longer vapourware
> >
> > Is there some reason that you are trying to draw out yet another 
> > idiotic "film versus digital" debate?
> >
> > Godfrey
> >
> >
> > On May 15, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >
> > > A couple of days ago a friend and I were talking about the rather
> > > convoluted workflow some of us go through at times.  We buy good 
> > > quality
> > > cameras, the highest quality lenses we can afford, test and retest film
> > > looking for that which gives the finest grain and highest resolution 
> > > and
> > > detail, and then scan the film using, at best, mediocre scanners 
> > > (sometimes
> > > at rather low resolution), run the mess through photo editing software 
> > > to
> > > correct and enhance lost color and sharpness, destroying even more of 
> > > the
> > > original negative, and then print the mess on an inkjet printer 
> > > (sometimes
> > > purchased with low price paramount to highest quality) or send it to a 
> > > lab
> > > somewhere that'll make a print cheaply - sometimes even via FTP or 
> > > email -
> > > where the techs have no idea what the final result is supposed to look
> > > like, and, bada-bing, we have the modern photograph.  What's wrong with
> > > this picture? <LOL>
> > >
> > >
> > > Shel
> > >
> > >
> > >> [Original Message]
> > >> From: Bob Blakely
> > >
> > >> Ain't film wonderful! the grain is entirely random! No anti-aliasing
> > > filter
> > >> required! FYI, anti-aliasing filters are not like the ubiquitous UV
> > > filter.
> > >> By their nature, they must add minor, shall we say, distortions to
> > > perform
> > >> their function.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Bob...
> > >> ------------------------------------------------
> > >> "A picture is worth a thousand  words,
> > >> but it uses up three thousand times the  memory."
> > >>
> > >> From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>
> > >>> On 14 May 2005 at 8:21, Bob W wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> AA filter? Does that prevent Leica photographers taking photos like
> > > Ansel
> > >>>> Adams?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If not, what actually is an AA filter?
> > >>>
> > >>> Anti-Aliasing
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/a/an/anti-aliasing.htm
> > >
> > >
> 
> 

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