Hi Shel
I see your point about not using a flash **inside** a theatre very well.
That was not the point of the story in my email however.
Nor was taking photos with "available light" which I have indeed done
before sometimes with my lovely K50mm 1.2 and fast film.
You are not trying to give my message a different meaning, do you?

Not allowing to take **any photographs without having a plausible reason**
was the main content of my email.
And there are always photographic occasions outside the theater before and
after the show and in breaks especially with children when a flash comes
handy.
I do respect rules Shel, I have no problem with that and not respecting them
would be a bad thing for everybody and indeed rude behavior and no service
for future photography.
I just have problems with stupid guys taking me for a sucker by telling me
an untrue and silly story about Suisa rights with
a smile and not even thinking a moment in favor of the artists who deserve
publicity and usually like free photos :-(.


greetings
Markus



>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:39 PM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: RE: No entry for photographers for the first time
>>
>>
>>Perhaps you're missing my point.  USING a flash is, imo, rude and
>>disruptive.  Hiding it on your person doesn't preclude you from using it,
>>and why would you take it if you weren't planing to use it.
>>
>>Photographers or the taking of photographs should be banned from certain
>>venues in some situations. I'd suggest that you learn to work with
>>available light rather than trying to overpower it with a strong flash.
>>
>>Shel
>>
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: Markus Maurer
>>
>>> Hi Shel
>>> I had all the gear hidden in two neutral pockets exactly for
>>that reason.
>>> I do that always at least for the second body and the large flash and
>>other
>>> parts on strolls too just for security reasons.
>>> The guy just wanted to say "No" and was not even brave enough
>>to admit it.
>>> Usually. small local cultural institutions are thankful for any free
>>> publicity.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Markus
>>>
>>>
>>> >>-----Original Message-----
>>> >>From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >>Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:18 PM
>>> >>To: [email protected]
>>> >>Subject: RE: No entry for photographers for the first time
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Try not carrying all that gear.  Seems to me that using a
>>flash during a
>>> >>theater performance is rude and disruptive.  At least that's
>>the way it
>>is
>>> >>at the shows I've seen.
>>> >>
>>> >>Shel
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> [Original Message]
>>> >>> From: Markus Maurer
>>> >>
>>> >>> Maybe I was just lucky before. I always got permission to take
>>> >>photographs
>>> >>> after some talk and on most events they do not even ask. They assume
>>you
>>> >>are
>>> >>> from the press when you carry two cameras, monopod and an
>>> >>impressive flash
>>> >>> and are quite
>>> >>> self confident. And the actors/musicians/subjects liked it
>>a lot when
>>I
>>> >>sent
>>> >>> them prints afterwards.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Nothing helps against stupid men....
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>
>>

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