No , Boris - now I'm over reacting.  Buzz off! 

I'm sick and tired of people telling me that I should be using new
technology.  That I can learn to love it. That I should embrace it.  That
I'll get used to it.  That it will help my photography. I don't want to
learn to love it.  The technology doesn't do anything for me.  I like old
cameras.  I don't like fancy whiz-bang features, modes, and programs.  I
don't use flash.  I don't give a rat's ass about frame rates or Hyper this
and Programmable that, as nice as those features may be (BTW, the Rollei
TLR had a Hyper Mode back in the sixties <LOL>). Leave me the f*** alone
wrt to the stuff YOU like. When I decide I want something newer, I'll get
it and use it. I will get a DSLR at some point, but perhaps not for the
reasons others here have.

Y'know, I asked three simple questions about how a specific camera worked,
and by the time the day was done there were half a dozen people telling me
what I should do, and that the camera I asked about was wrong or right for
me.  That I'd love or hate it. 

I'm borrowing the camera for a specific feature for a solution to a
specific situation because my digi is under the weather with a wobbly
tripod mount.  If a friend on the list didn't offer the loan of her 5n I'd
be using the LX for the project.  I don't want an autofocus camera.  Can
you understand that?  I don't want a plastic camera.  I like the heavy
metal cameras and the old lenses that I use.  When it came time to buy a
second Leica I bought an old one for about the same price as a new one. 
BECAUSE I LIKE IT.  The latest lens I bought for the Leica is seventy years
old. 

Neither you nor anyone will convince me to buy or use something that does
not give me pleasure and the kind of photographic experience I want until I
decide I'm ready for it.  Don't you think that, after all these years, and
all the money I've spent on gear  that if I wanted something other than
what I have, I would have already purchased it.  So, for the last time -
F*CK technologically advanced cameras.  I don't need them for the kind of
photography I do.  I'm not a macro shooter, I don't make close-ups of
flowers and rocks, when shooting landscapes or scenics I don't need auto
anything, just a sturdy tripod, good light, and some film. And just to put
things in perspective, I also recently purchased a well-regarded auto focus
lens, because it's suitable to me needs and works great when used manually.

If you, and others, like your Captain Whiz-Bang cameras that's fine.  They
fill a need for you.  They don't for me.  I like old things.  I like my 
30+ year old, all metal, wood, and leather, comfortable-for-my-fat-ass
Mercedes and my even older, 100% original Cadillac convertible with real
leather interior an tail fins.  I like my denim shirts faded and frayed at
the collar. Most of the furniture in my house is antique.  My coffee mug is
almost 40 years old - I don't want a new one, and heaven help the house
keeper should she break it.  I've worn the same belt buckle almost every
day since 1968.  I love it.  I don't care for change.  I like the way old
things look and feel. I like how they make me feel.  In a word,
comfortable.  

And now I'm gonna watch a 1940's movie on my 20+ year old non-cable ready
TV set, and enjoy some non-microwave pocorn.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Boris Liberman 
>
> > Have you read all the crap that one must consider and go through to
> > get the 5n to work while using auto focus...
> >
> > And if I'm gonna do that, why bother with an auto focus camera in the
> > first place.
>
> Shel, I think you may be somewhat over-reacting...
>
> It is very simple. Each time you are about to use a bit of technology, 
> you have to learn its limitations in order to use it to your maximal 
> benefit. You know, the RTFM thingie...
>
> I have MZ-6 which is similar to MZ-5n in AF. Sometimes I have to manual 
> focus, sometimes I can rely on technology...
>
> Technology comes to help you, but not to replace your brains with some 
> electronic appendage...
>
> You would remember to crank the film advance lever each time you take a 
> shot with your MX, so that you take the next shot, wouldn't you? You 
> would have to remember that your MZ-5n's AF does not work under certain 
> conditions. What is wrong with that?
>
> Boris


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