Treason doth never prosper,
What's the reason?
Why, if it prosper,
None dur'st call it treason!

Today's terrorists are tomorrow's freedom fighters.

John

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:36:25 +0100, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Most if not all governments that are overthrown by a revolution had lost legitimaticy in the eyes of their people. That is what made the revolution possible in the first place. The government that replaces them then tries with greater or lesser success to become legitimate. Some by appealing to the people some by repressing the people both by declaring themselves legitimate and making their overthrow illegal. In some cases the first works, in some the second in some neither works. Tom C wrote:

Interesting how most governments come into power via the overthrow of the previous recognized, accepted and legitimate government. The new government then immediately makes it illegal to overthrow or threaten their own security.

1776 AD - Thirteen English colonies in North America declare themselves seperate and sovereign from the British Empire and begin a revolution.

Tom C.




From: "MARGARET CORNETT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: more on photographers rights
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:09:58 -0400

I'll swear it's getting even worse here in the U.S. I have a friend who was involved in one of those automobile "accidents" where a bunch of people forced him into a rear-end collision so they could rip off his insurance. Since then he installed a video system in his car-- it's the EXACT type that many police agencies use in their patrol cars. He has cameras front and back and sides.

He got pulled over by a cop, and as the cop was talking to him, he warned the police officer that he was being videotaped and recorded. The cop went ballistic, and ordered my friend to turn it off. My friend refused. He was arrested, and his car was impounded. Seems there is a law in his county that forbids anyone from videotaping police officers in a manner in which the officer believes will interfere with his actions, and anyone MUST cease videotaping a police officer when so ordered. The case hasn't been to court yet. My guess is that my friend will win, but it will cost him mucho in legal fees. In the meantime they have also impounded the recordings as evidence-- not the content of the recordings, but the recordings themselves (there's a fine legal difference between those two things). They did it in a manner that tries to keep him from using what's on the recordings in his defense.

It seems that the government can videotape you anytime and anywhere they want, but the citizenry better not try it the other way around. -BC-










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