P. J. Alling wrote:
I disagree, Cromwell won and he's still considered a traitor.
Some terrorists will always be seen as terrorists...
Wining isn't enough.
Probably have to do a bit of dining as well, in the modern business climate.
John Forbes wrote:
Treason doth never prosper,
What's the reason?
Why, if it prosper,
None dur'st call it treason!
Today's terrorists are tomorrow's freedom fighters.
John
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:36:25 +0100, P. J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Most if not all governments that are overthrown by a revolution had
lost legitimaticy in the eyes of their people. That is what made
the revolution possible in the first place. The government that
replaces them then tries with greater or lesser success to become
legitimate. Some by appealing to the people some by repressing the
people both by declaring themselves legitimate and making their
overthrow illegal. In some cases the first works, in some the
second in some neither works. Tom C wrote:
Interesting how most governments come into power via the overthrow
of the previous recognized, accepted and legitimate government.
The new government then immediately makes it illegal to overthrow
or threaten their own security.
1776 AD - Thirteen English colonies in North America declare
themselves seperate and sovereign from the British Empire and begin
a revolution.
Tom C.
From: "MARGARET CORNETT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: more on photographers rights
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:09:58 -0400
I'll swear it's getting even worse here in the U.S. I have a
friend who was involved in one of those automobile "accidents"
where a bunch of people forced him into a rear-end collision so
they could rip off his insurance. Since then he installed a video
system in his car-- it's the EXACT type that many police agencies
use in their patrol cars. He has cameras front and back and sides.
He got pulled over by a cop, and as the cop was talking to him, he
warned the police officer that he was being videotaped and
recorded. The cop went ballistic, and ordered my friend to turn it
off. My friend refused. He was arrested, and his car was
impounded. Seems there is a law in his county that forbids anyone
from videotaping police officers in a manner in which the officer
believes will interfere with his actions, and anyone MUST cease
videotaping a police officer when so ordered. The case hasn't been
to court yet. My guess is that my friend will win, but it will
cost him mucho in legal fees. In the meantime they have also
impounded the recordings as evidence-- not the content of the
recordings, but the recordings themselves (there's a fine legal
difference between those two things). They did it in a manner that
tries to keep him from using what's on the recordings in his defense.
It seems that the government can videotape you anytime and
anywhere they want, but the citizenry better not try it the other
way around. -BC-
