Secondly, I totally agree that increasing
the nodal point away from the sensor while
maintaining the same focal length will help
the digital sensor / lens interface with respect
to keep the lens rays more parallel incidence
at sensor plane but there is a heavy price
for that , the retrofocus lenses that do that
are far larger, heaver, worse optically, and
more expensive than if you don't need to do that.
That's why the Pentax and other cameras that
use APS sensors in old FF 35mm body designed
lenses are at a disadvantage, the 45.5mm sensor
plane to lens flange distance is way too large
relative to the small format (APS),
jco

-----Original Message-----
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 6:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: First non DSLR digicam with 10MP APS sensor- contradiction


On Sep 9, 2005, at 2:27 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> I did a quick sketch to clarify what I said: 
> http://www.jcoconnell.com/temp/rearanglediagram.jpg


Your sketch is misleading: it exaggerates the relative sizing of the  
sensor target compared to the lens and also does not indicate where  
the nodal point is. In a typical Cooke triplet, it's the distance  
from the nodal point to the imaging plane that determines the  
deviation from the orthogonal as you approach the edge of the film/ 
sensor format, not the distance between the rear element and the film/ 
sensor.

The point of having a lens designed for a digital sensor that has its  
rearmost element very close to the sensor plane is that the rearmost  
elements of the lens performs correction designed to orient the light  
path from the nodal point (placed sufficiently far forward in the  
lens) such that the ray trace to the photosite plane is orthogonal,  
not that you'd place the nodal point further rearwards in the lens.

This is quite similar to what a condenser enlarger head does: it  
positions a collimating lens group very close to the film plane in  
order to make the light pass evenly through all points of the  
negative, right to the corners, and oriented orthogonally through the  
film so that a flat field imaging objective (the enlarging lens) will  
exhibit very little light falloff at corners and edges.

A large diameter element at the rear of a lens designed for the  
digital sensor helps in promoting this even illumination of the  
entire sensor area. Placing this rear lens group close to the sensor,  
relatively distant from the nodal point, allows the strength of the  
elements to be lower and thus promotes less distortion from the  
correction.

Godfrey

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