Hey Paul,
When a digital shot is successful right out of the camera, it's the camera
that's getting it right. And >that only works if you're shooting jpeg.
Since all I've shot digitally, so far, is jpeg, this sounds alot like
shooting slides and living with the characteristics of the film and my
exposure ability - ergo get it right in the camera.
When you shoot RAW, you have to set the parameters yourself.
I'll soon be trying this as I know have CS2 installed on a new PC.
However, even when shooting jpegs, you can almost always improve on the
camera's preselected >parameters.
And I normally do. I generally like velvia like saturation.
It's not the same as shooting slide film.
Sure sounds like it though, at least with jpegs.
Kenneth Waller
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Hi Ken,
When a digital shot is successful right out of the camera, it's the camera
that's getting it right. And that only works if you're shooting jpeg. The
camera has pre-set parameters that try to come close to a correct
rendering of the scene. When you shoot RAW, you have to set the parameters
yourself. However, even when shooting jpegs, you can almost always improve
on the camera's preselected parameters. It's not the same as shooting
slide film.
Paul
> It's akin to choosing the correct film and exposing it accurately. The
> camera
is too dumb to do that perfectly, >and it can't read the photographer's
mind.
>Paul
I'll agree with Ann on this. When I adjust black/white point, its an
admission
that I've come up short as a photographer. Coming from my slide shooting
background, my goal is to get it right in the camera.
YMMV
Kenneth Waller
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Hi Ann,
I don't think anyone would say that adjusting black point in a digital
image is
manipulation. There's no such thing as a "pure" digital image. The camera
is
manipulating the image according to preset parameters. The photographer
certainly can adjust those same parameters to achieve the vision he or
she had
hoped to record. In fact, I would say the photographer is obligated to
fine tune
a digital image. It's akin to choosing the correct film and exposing it
accurately. The camera is too dumb to do that perfectly, and it can't
read the
photographer's mind.
Paul
> Butch Black wrote:
> >
> > Nice series Ann. I particularly liked bus stop in Redmond Ca. and
> > morning
> > coffee.
>
> Thanks, Butch - I like to hear which ones stand
> out to different folk.
>
> >I liked the space needle but think it could use a bit of contrast.
> > Try using the black eyedropper on the needle if you are using PS,
> > Elements,
> > or most of the other image editing programs.
> >
> > Butch
>
>
> hmmm I think that would fall under the heading of
> manipulation and I
> like not to do that... I see what you mean,
> though, but just barely.
>
> I use photoshop elements 2.0, for the record.
> never used eyedropper tool.
>
> ann
>
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