I totally missed that last point! Thanks.
Tom C.
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: More Texas Photo Issues
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:32:59 -0400
I didn't think you were. I've never really had a problem with the
missionaries, they even suffer to discuss religion with me, which I look
upon as good sport since most of them are hardly biblical scholars, a half
trained history teacher can usually run rhetorical rings around them. My
point is that I've never had them threaten to go to court to force me to
stop making them feel uncomfortable.
Tom C wrote:
Excuse me Peter. Not attacking you...
I agree in general with you but I find your dislike for proselytizers
someone at odds with other beliefs you seem to hold. You are certainly
entitled to dislike whatever you wish. However, both religious groups you
mentioned are following the dictates of their faith and consciences.
Those are some of the same rights that hundreds of thousands of country men
have died for in the 'defense of freedom and liberty'. The Supreme Court
cases that were fought and won by Jehovah's Witnesses in the '40's have
actually secured freedoms for all. It's largely because of those cases
that the flag salute is not compulsory today.
When they come to your door they are exercising constitutional rights of
freedom of speech we have all come to enjoy and usually take for granted.
You of course are exercising your constitutional right not to listen.
Tom C.
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: More Texas Photo Issues
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:52:11 -0400
By definition, you're an atheist if you don't believe in God. It's not a
definition used by religious people. There are atheists who wear that
label proudly. I don't have a problem with Atheists who don't believe in
God, I don't have a problem with the religious who don't try to force their
religion on others, I do have problems with proselytizers, for or against
God. I find that Atheist proselytizers tend to try to force their beliefs
with the power of the law, where as most of my experience with religious
annoyances are on a more personal level. I've gotten quite good at making
Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses uncomfortable. It's a useful hobby.
A man without religion is like a fish without a bicycle.
-Vique
Rob Studdert wrote:
On 18 Oct 2005 at 18:30, P. J. Alling wrote:
We were talking about belief, not just belief in God but also the belief
in no god. Both are beliefs neither is in the least provable, that's
what belief is.
So if no-one believed in God would all those people be atheist?
Atheist is simply a tag religious people apply to the non-religious, ie
those who couldn't care less or really don't think about such things.
Rob Studdert
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