On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 12:15:27PM +0100, Chris Stoddart wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, William Robb wrote:
> 
> > >> Neither of the BMW's that I have owned handled especially well in the
> > >> wet............
> > >
> > > Obviously ~ wrong tires...
> >
> > I'm not sure if I can blame the equipment. I have a bad habit of overdriving
> > the conditions.
> > But, I tried both Contis and Michelins on both. Neither would keep the
> > vehicle on the road the way I tended to drive at the time.
> 
> Yep, Keith's right; tyre/tire choice is critical. Over the last decade
> I've tried several makes on my E30s
> 
> Michelins - arghhhh, like driving on grease
> Continentals - average and expensive
> Pirelli P6-somethings - not bad, would have them again
> GoodYear Eagles - current fave
> 
> Of course tread patterns and rubber compunds in North America might bear
> no relation to those in Europe, which I am sure are designed more for
> wet, curvy roads? Ditto the car suspension? Also bear in mind BMW's are
> meant to be a bit tail-happy because they're all about the driver being in
> charge, not the car :-)

Tread & compounds are pretty much the same - the biggest difference
in the domestic vs. import car market is suspension softness.  Even
there the American manufacturers seem to have come to the realisation
that a sports sedan works better with stiff shock absorbers.

My (1986) Mustang came with GoodYear Eagle "Gatorbacks" as OEM rubber.
They were pretty good, but I found that Dunlop D40 M2s worked even better.
Nowadays it's getting pretty hard to find anything to fit it; later models
went to lower-profile tyres.  Since the car is about due to be replaced,
and I do less than 5000 miles a year, I jusp picked up something cheap-ish
last time - the new Dunlop SP 5000s (a set of 4 set me back around $500).
I'm pretty impressed - I opted for the Z-rated compound, and it sticks
to the road amazingly well on dry asphalt, and it's not too bad in the damp.
I haven't had a chance to try it in full wet, but the tread pattern looks
to be able to handle just about anything short of a monsoon.

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