Cotty wrote:
> 
> On 27/11/05, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >It is one thing to work up the light and stuff if
> >you are taking
> >a photo of something like, um, dare I say , a
> >couple of green peppers
> >but if you are photographing a person it might be
> >nice to reveal something
> >of their character instead of looking at their
> >faces or hands as if they
> >were simply an object.  The shot of Truman is
> >terrible. Nothing to do with
> >his character at all, all to do with how cleverly
> >the photgrapher can
> >light him.  It is al showing off the photgrapher's
> >ego - not a portrait
> >of Harry at all. feh
> 
> I think that as a photographer you have to work through a variety of
> styles and preferences along the way, and Newman was trying something
> different. Obviously not all his work is the same. Later, he did lots of
> stuff with the sitter as part of a larger design incorporating props or
> other external design elements, and later still using collage, with bits
> of a single image chopped up and reassembled. It's still a portrait in
> my book.
> 
In my book, only technically.  Sorry Cotty, but
what you are telling me
in more detail about what Newman did really is
just a kind of
photography I don't care for.  Note the difference
between this kind of
portraiture and the wonderful and revealing HCB
stuff of equally famous
folk.  

> I think the shot of Truman is fantastic - to me it illustrates a
> different way of looking at a face - one that had been photographed many
> times previously (and since). I don't understand what is clever about
> it. To me it's just different. :-)
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
>
Ah, Cotty, my luv, we just ain't goona meet on
this one.  I don't think
it is so "different" even.  I'm not much
interested in people photos
on the whole, anyway, but when I like 'em it is
when I can see who
they are, something about them, from the way the
camera caught them -
candid stuff grabs me, formal portraits just leave
me cold.  

cheers 2,
ann

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