Over on the Adobe Photoshop User to User forum the question of image
degradation with JPEGs came up.  One of the Photoshop wizards posted a test
that actually showed how many pixels changed or were lost each time a JPEG
was resaved.  There were changes and loss of information with ~every~ save.

Bob said the loss would be minimal and that one would have to save several
times before the loss becomes evident.  That's not quite the same thing as
there being no loss.  However, I firmly believe some people can see smaller
amounts of image degradation a lot easier than others. Once again,
depending on the image details, the loss may be more or less obvious. 
Viewing the files @ 100%, or making large prints, will show these losses a
lot more than viewing web-sized images or making smaller prints - but we
all know that. You are, of course, absolutely correct that he loss exists
with every save, although it's not always the same amount of loss.  I think
the first resave loses the most information, and subsequent saves lose a
smaller percentage (based on the specific test shown on the User to User
forum).

The 12 figure is not the number of times an image is saved. Twelve in this
case is a quality setting in Photoshop.  When using the "Save As" function
there are twelve quality levels at which a file can be saved, with twelve
being the highest quality.  Using "Save for Web" there are 100 levels of
quality that can be chosen.

Shel 
"You meet the nicest people with a Pentax" 


> [Original Message]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> True.  Closing a JPEG does not alter it in any way.  Saving it  
> recompresses the data, with commensurate loss.
>
> However, if you always save JPEGs at the highest quality (12 in  
> Photoshop) the loss will be minimal.  You can resave JPEGs saved at  
> 12 several times before the loss becomes evident.
>
> Bob
> =======
> Where do you get this 12 times figure? When I was working with graphic
files, 
> admittedly not photographs, it seemed to me there was a degradation after
the 
> second resave.
>
> Marnie aka Doe


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