Tom, Not at all. No offense taken. Actually, Kostas and I enjoyed an aminable and thorough ringing out this subject off list. I got started there, to be more certain he saw the promised post, and I believe we ultimately came to a common agreement as to the color characteristics of Velvia. At least as reproduced in the example image.
Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jack, > > I wasn't drawing any connection between sharpness and color fidelity. > What > I found unusual was that the photo shown as an example did not look > sharp > and that could, pardon the pun, otherwise color viewers perceptions > of the > film. Sorry. I must have not seen your comments regarding scan > quality. > > I agree, it's hard to look through others eyes. My mother constantly > calls > things green that I perceive as yellow. Of course I'm right... > because the > auto manufacturer calls the car gold, not green. > > Personal preference, I suppose, is the reason why so many films > exist. > > Sorry if I came across as harsh or soap-boxish. > > Tom C. > > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas > >Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 06:50:19 -0800 (PST) > > > >I mentioned that this was scanned on an Epson 3170 in support of my > >earlier disclaimer of the scanner's ability to make a satisfactory > scan > >of a 35mm. (all my 35mm scans are done commercially). In my > inventory, > >this particular shot is unsurpassed in terms of revealed fine > detail. > >I am, however, wondering what connection you're making between > >sharpness and color fidelity. May be a minor point that you can take > up > >with yourself. > >It was shot on a misty day in a wooded area in very flat light. > >The kind of day you look for to produce vivid true colors. > >There is no way of my seeing through your color cones and no way > will I > >attempt to convince you of what you're "seeing". > > > >Jack > > > > > >--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > OK... Jack... now show us a shot that's in focus or where there's > not > > > a > > > breeze... I think the colors of the leaves and such are just > fine... > > > > > > obviously shot in low light with a lot of contrast, hence the > very > > > dark > > > almost silhouette... but I don't find the colors, which are > supposed > > > to be > > > bright and vibrant based on the subject, unnatural or > unappealing. > > > > > > The fact that Velvia has been by far and away the leading > landscape > > > nature > > > film for just about the last 15 years says that many people, > > > including those > > > making a living, and 'pros' don't agree. > > > > > > I was expecting you'd show us a picture where the colors are > grossly > > > distorted. This doesn't look that way to me. > > > > > > I've been using Velvia since it came out and can display quite a > > > number of > > > shots that have had widespead appeal (from those who have viewed > > > them). > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > > >To: [email protected] > > > >Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas > > > >Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:32:38 -0800 > > > > > > > >Ugh! Yech! Barf! > > > > > > > >Shel > > > >"You meet the nicest people with a Pentax" > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > > > From: Jack Davis > > > > > > > > > Kostas, here is the example of Velvia you requested. Forgot > link > > > and > > > > > was wrong in a second attempt. > > > > > You may have read my comments in the earlier attempt. > > > > > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=96 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
