On Dec 23, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

From the archives: It's Godfry's 12/20 contribution to the
TTL/Metering? thread:

Referring to the D-
"...(built-in flash when using lenses that do not support P-TTL
metering)..."

Maybe there is more to know about the difference between TTL and P- TTL.
I once asked Pentax that question and was told "P"
is simply a reference to Pentax equipment.


The full quote is:

Do any digital SLR's provide Off The Sensor metering?
I gather not..(?)

TTL flash metering is supported by the D (built-in flash when using lenses that do not support P-TTL metering) and by the DS/DS2 when using a compatible dedicated external flash unit. Due to the nature of TTL flash metering, it must be reading "off the film/sensor" since it is determining light levels dynamically at the time of exposure.

The TTL ambient light metering is all pre-exposure, through a sensor system fed by semi-silvered portions of the mirror and sensors above the focusing screen.

[addendum] "... therefore it cannot measure ambient light while exposure is actually happening since the mirror is up at that time."

P-TTL stands for "preflash-through the lens". If Pentax wants to market it as "Pentax-Through The Lens", fine, but the name then means nothing, it's just a tag. What P-TTL flash metering does is take an ambient light reading and a flash light reading with a pre-flash, integrate them, and set the exposure specifics, including flash unit output, to match.

TTL flash metering is much simpler: a sensor simply reads the flash illumination coming through the lens and sends the flash unit a quench signal when nominal exposure has been achieved.

P-TTL requires information about the lens maximum aperture and working aperture to work because it makes the preflash and ambient light readings prior to exposure when the lens is still held wide open and the mirror/ambient exposure system is enabled. This requires KA or KAF mount lenses on the D/DS/DL/DS2 bodies, there is no aperture simulator to mechanically transmit aperture information to the metering system. With the DS/DS2/DL bodies, the built in flash ONLY supports two modes of operation: P-TTL or non-metered full output. When a lens which does not have at least the KA electrical connections is used with these bodies, the built in flash unit defaults to non-metered, full output mode and no pre-flash is fired. More on the D body below.

TTL flash metering reads the light reflected from the sensor during the actual exposure. This requires no information regarding maximum lens opening or working lens opening ... it's simply reading the light and quenching the flash at the appropriate moment. The D body supports TTL flash metering with K mount lenses using the built-in flash, as well as P-TTL with KA and KAF mount lenses. The D, DS and DS2 bodies support TTL flash operation with K mount lenses only when used with a dedicated external flash unit like the AF360FGZ. The DL does not have the circuitry to support TTL flash metering with K mount lenses even with an external flash unit (at least that is the best I can make out from the DL owners manual).

So ... KA and KAF lenses are fully compatible with P-TTL and all other *ist D, DS, DS2, DL exposure functions. K mount lenses are only compatible with TTL flash metering with the DSLRs, and only when using the D body or DS/DS2 bodies with a dedicated external flash unit.

I hope that's clear now.

Godfrey

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