Reporters are lazy, and they bring their own biases. Maybe the released
convict had a long and ignominious history of skirting the edge of the
law before he was foolish enough to get caught, OTOH, he could have just
run into an elected DA during a hard fought campaign, defending his law
and order record. We don't know. Like everything else the system is
run by people. It seems to me that you don't get sentenced to 35 years
in prison if you're a choir boy, but like I said, we don't really know.
Ivan Shukster wrote:
According to the news item on CNN this fellow was convicted in South
Carolina and was constantly refused parole until this past year. When
interviewed and asked how it felt to be free he stated he would not feel
free until he crossed the state line. I am going by the news as it was
reported on CNN TV and on their web page. There was absolutely no mention of
any other crimes and this was before the three strikes rule. It was in the
news because it was an anomaly.
http://www.alternet.org/rights/24640/
I guess I was wrong on the time It was 35 years instead.
What assumption should I review? That CNN reported the facts wrong, that it
occurred somewhere other than the USA or that I cannot understand what news
I hear? Sorry but I am just repeating what was on US news.
As far as further rational discussion I was just questioning the statement
that the US justice system is the best in the world and that sounded to me
as an absolute, not question true fact. I think it is more an assumption.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 10, 2006 5:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
You don't seriously think that one would receive a 23 year prison
sentence simply for "stealing a black and white TV"?
Until you review that assumption, further rational discussion would be
hopeless.
Jack
--- Ivan Shukster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is it? I am wondering what this is based on. Is it statistically
better
than the one in Canada or New Zealand or Australia? I cannot
understand how
someone serving 23 years for stealing a black and white TV is a
justice
system. I would think that most people in a "free" country would
trust
their own system over that of another country as normally only the
abnormal
results from another country's system makes international news.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 10, 2006 5:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
US justice system is far from perfect, it's only the best one in the
world.
Jack
--- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't know about that, I expect that real justice is a likely
either
way. Juries can be capricious, so can judges. The system doesn't
even
try to guarantee justice by the way, only process.
Tom C wrote:
Don't think my earlier comments meant I have faith in the justice
system(s). It's just that one probably stands a better chance of
justice (statistically) if their case is heard by a jury than by
a
judge, or any other single person.
Tom C.
From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:46:58 -0000
-----Original Message-----
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and when you castrate an innocent person, how will you put
his
balls
back on?
Someone proven by the courts to be guilty is likely to be
guilty.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2001/life_of_crime/misca
rriages.stm
I'm happy with the risk he might be innocent. Balls away!
...until it's you, or your son, presumably.
Bob
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