No, I mean, when I use camera flashes as a studio outfit, I use OSRAM pilots
(with lihgt bulbs) for modeling light. Like this one, of which I own four:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p12548139.html
Regards
Jens
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

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Fra: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 15. januar 2006 00:22
Til: [email protected]
Emne: Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?


No modelling lights from Pentax, I'm not sure about Nikon, but on Canon
EX flashes, your DoF preview button activates a (supremely annoying but
functional) modelling light feature, even wirelessly.

-Adam


Jens Bladt wrote:

>Very convenient. Does this mean you shoot without modelling light?
>Regards
>Jens
>
>Jens Bladt
>http://www.jensbladt.dk
>
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>Fra: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sendt: 14. januar 2006 23:23
>Til: [email protected]
>Emne: Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?
>
>
>Jens,
>
>With modern Wireless flashes from the camera manufacturer, all you have
>is stands, umbrellas/softboxes and the flashes themselves. With Canon,
>you need to add a ST-E2 wireless transmitter, but it's a good addition
>if you shoot low-light as most Canons don't have an IR AF assist lamp,
>and the ST-E2 is one, with Nikon i-TTL or Pentax P-TTL bodies you may
>have the option of using the pop-up flash as a wirless commander on
>certain bodies, or you'll need a wireless master flash in Commander
>Mode. No cabling, sensors, power supplies or extra hassles, and of
>course you can use the flashes on-camera as well. It's relatively cheap
>and completely portable. essentially you're paying for a second flash
>(Which can usually be a cheaper slave-only flash) the stands and
>lighting modifiers and maybe a wireless command unit. All told, your
>extra cost is about that of one monolight, a radio trigger and the
>stands (Which can be a lot cheaper than monolight stands, camera flashes
>are lighter) and modifiers.
>
>As to my Camera club, well we're a very low-budget affair. The only
>thing the club owns is it's space on meetup.com, which costs around
>$10USD a month. We pass the hat when the account starts running low.
>Great bunch of people though, and we're very active.
>
>-Adam
>
>
>Jens Bladt wrote:
>
>
>
>>I see, this is different/special.
>>I our camera club, the club owns the strobe-outfit consisting 8 Courtney
>>
>>
>and
>
>
>>Visatec strobes  - including sofboxes, honey comb filters, snoots etc.
It's
>>mounted in special rails in the cieling and there's several rolls of
>>background paper. It's true that this would be too expensive (and
>>unnecessary) for one person to get.
>>
>>In my experience, however, a strobe outfit consisting of several camera
>>flashes is in fact more expensive and less reliable than an old an
>>
>>
>fashioned
>
>
>>strobe outfit. A 2 or 3 oiece outfit is often cheaper (used) as a single
>>camera flash, which has a lot of automatics, you don't really need for
>>studio work.
>>I myself own an outfit made out of 4 old Metz CT 45's and 1 Metz CT 60.
>>It's a PITA to use because of all the cords, sensors, power supplies,
pilot
>>light arrangemenst etc. But I still use it from time to time for
>>
>>
>assignments
>
>
>>outside the studio.
>>Before Chrismas I had an assignment (26 portraits and one group shot). I
>>rented a 3 piece (Two 600 Ws and one 1200 Ws) Elinchrome outfit for 1 day,
>>for which I paid 100 USD. It was well worth it. The Rotalux softboxes are
>>simply brilliant. Likewise the electronic controled flash units. They are
>>however, rather expensive. One 600Ws is appr. 2000 USD! But I could buy a
3
>>piece Chinese outfit (Walimex) for less than the cost of one Pentax AF500
>>FTZ flash!
>>
>>In stead of infrared triggering, I often use a cheap 3 piece radio trigger
>>device, I got off ebay. Works rather well. And it's wireless too.
>>
>>Regards
>>Jens
>>
>>
>>Jens Bladt
>>http://www.jensbladt.dk
>>
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>>Fra: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sendt: 14. januar 2006 18:47
>>Til: [email protected]
>>Emne: Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?
>>
>>
>>Jens,
>>
>>We're mostly amateurs, using wireless flash one stands with umbrellas,
>>not full-on studio strobes (Which only a couple people in a group of
>>several hundred own, many more happen to own EX series flashes and the
>>necessary accessories). And a D will not trigger a ST-E2, I've tried.
>>It's actually surprising how well multiple wireless flashes works as
>>long as you don't run out of power.
>>
>>-Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>Jens Bladt wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Adam wrote
>>><different one can cause problems for you at certain events, like studio
>>><shoots, when you can't take advantage of gear sharing).
>>>
>>>My *ist D works perfectly normal with an Elinchrome strobe outfit. No
>>>problems.
>>>Some flash units requires, that some cameras (not just Pentax) are
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>connected
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>after reversing the polarity of the flash cord.
>>>That's not a real problem. Easily solved, and invovleves several camera
>>>brands. My camera club just invested in an extra cord, so the members can
>>>choose the right cord for the right camera.
>>>
>>>
>>>Jens Bladt
>>>http://www.jensbladt.dk
>>>
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>>>Fra: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sendt: 14. januar 2006 06:59
>>>Til: [email protected]
>>>Emne: Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?
>>>
>>>
>>>--SNIP--
>>>
>>>
>>>But There is a major performance gap, and it's one reason I've left
>>>Pentax for AF/Digital bodies. Not the main reason though (That was
>>>logistics. When everyone in the club shoots one brand, having a
>>>different one can cause problems for you at certain events, like studio
>>>shoots, when you can't take advantage of gear sharing).
>>>
>>>-Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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