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Thanks Christian. You are the resident bird expert, so I appreciate your input very much. I agree that a crop eliminating the white would be most pleasing. I can certainly do that for a web image. Perhaps even for a small print. I now have a dozen or so birds that were all shot at this nature center. They want me to put together a small show for their learning center, so I'm probably going to print them all up. When posting on the web, I generally don't crop to a size that's useless for printing. I'll have to look at that.
I have become a firm believer in handheld bird photography. Too many misses 
with a tripod. At 1/750th or faster and with flash fill, handheld works out 
rather well. Probably not good enough for serious bird work, but good enough 
for my personal entertainment:-) I have done a few off the tripod, and I'll 
probably do some more, but I find it very limiting.
Paul

Have you ever tried a rifle stock/photosniper type of setup? They work very well but there are possible dangers involved with their useage these days.

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This never made my mail. My apologies if it's a duplicate for others.

Another bird from Sunday's walk. Some kind of finch I would guess. This is more of a crop -- about half of the frame. So there's more visible noise. But I still like it. *istD A400/5.6, 5/6 @ 1/750. ISO 800, fill flash from the Sigma Super with the Kirk Flash Xtender. Handheld of course.
Paul
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4194560&size=lg



Hi Paul, I think it is a winter-plumage goldfinch.

to me the noise is far less distracting than the huge blob of white on the left. I know it's already cropped, but a more vertical crop, eliminating the white would make it look better to me.

That's pretty freakin good for hand held!  :-)

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Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net






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