Love the Willets too. Brilliant composition.
http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/displayimage.php?album=2&pos=35


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 20. mars 2006 01:06
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography
> 
> Markus Maurer wrote:
> > Hi Christian - the real bird man
> >
> > I hoped to get an answer from you and I understand your recommendations
> and
> > conclusion very well.
> > But frankly, I not convinced that I am really into bird or wildlife (in
> > Switzerland ;-) photography in the longer run
> > but more into landscape and people shooting. That's why I first want to
> > experiment a bit in this field and not invest
> > any money.
> 
> A very good idea.  I started out with a REALLY crappy 60-300 Kalimar
> zoom and got soooo frustrated with it that I ended up spending more
> money on better gear.  But I WANTED to photograph nature (and birds in
> particular) so I knew I was going to upgrade.
> 
> 
> >
> > So, for the first trials, I will go with the M200/4 + converter  and the
> > mirror lens
> 
> I had both the M and A 200/4 lenses and liked them very much.  I used a
> 2x converter with them with OK results.
> 
> and better only on *big* birds ;-)
> 
> See, here's the deal, small birds (songbirds, shorebirds, etc) tend to
> be less skittish and are easier to approach...  but you need a BIG lens
> to make a full frame shot of them even at relatively close distances.
> Big birds like hawks and eagles and cormorants, tend to be extremely
> skittish and hard to approach so you STILL need that big lens to get a
> good frame-filling shot!  :-)
> 
> Learn good field craft.  Learn to stalk the birds, use blinds, feed
> them, whatever.  Just don't get discouraged and have fun!  I'm looking
> forward to seeing some results.
> 
> And just to make Mike Wilson cringe:
> http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-2
> 
> --
> 
> Christian
> http://photography.skofteland.net
> 




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