Hi Collin While I understand your recommendation for the Tokina 400mm, I question myself why I should yet get another zoom in the same range I already have. Beside being one stop faster I don't think that the Tokina 80-200mm would show better results than the SP Tamron 70-210 3.5-4 zoom or the Pentax A 70-210 zoom I already own, they are both good. Why should I replace the SP Tamron 500/8 mirror lens, which got very good test results **for a mirror lens** with a smaller one and a 1.4 converter? I see no gain in doing that. I plan to try to add the 1.4 Tamron SP converter to make it an 700mm mirror lens on occasion and see how it performs on **a very bright day** ;-)
Anyway, I will have to test drive all of them and want to see how well the old and bargain Soligor 350mm 5.6 screwmount lens does as well. tanks and greetings Markus >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Collin R Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:06 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography >> >> >>Try Tokina. >>80-200/2.8 from $200 to $300 >>400/5.6 commonly < $200 >> >>And for something more novel and still inexpensive, >>check out some less-common 300mm mirror lenses with a T mount. >> >>Then use a good 1.4x to keep a quality picture. >> >>Collin >> >>At 06:21 PM 3/19/2006, you wrote: >>>Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:06:06 +0100 >>>From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: <[email protected]> >>>Subject: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography >>>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Content-Type: text/plain; >>> charset="iso-8859-1" >>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> >>>Hi Pentaxians >>> >>>I do not have a "real" tele lens for bird photography but would >>like to try >>>to get some cormorant shots soon and therefore seek for your advice: >>> >>>I understand that around 400-600mm on film would be a good start for such >>>big birds, do you agree? >>>Anyway, all I have at the moment is listed below, the flashes I >>own will not >>>be powerful enough for more than 12-20 meters fill flash. I'm prepared to >>>invest in a better lens when I like that kind of photography but for a >>>start: >>> >>> >>>Which lens or combination would be the best for that task, I >>know that all >>>of the combinations will be rather slow? >>> >>> >>>a very old Soligor 350mm F 5.6 M42 tele >>>Tamron SP 70-210 3.5-4 + Tamron SP 1.4 >>>or Tamron SP 2x converter >>>Pentax M 200mm + Pentax A 2xS converter >>>Pentax A70-210mm + Pentax A2xS converter >>> >>>or still the Tamron SP 500/8 mirror lens despite it's shortcomings? >>> >>>Or just forget about bird photography with that poor equipment? >>> >>> >>>thanks for any recommendations >>> >>>greetings >>>Markus >> >>"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" >> -- Jim Elliott >>
