Of course this is a waste of time. But you are the one "not getting it". The fact that you have an opinion and feel a certain way about various photographic processes is not the issue.

Expressing your "person perception and feeling" in such a way as to disparage other people's passion and feeling is the issue, whether you intend your statement to be that or not.

There is art in photography. Photography, the capture of scenes with camera and the rendering of images, both print and otherwise, to present those captures, is achieved with various technologies which are independent of the art. A photographer who engages the art appreciates it regardless of the technology of the process, and regardless of which process she/he finds the most compelling for the production of their art.

To say "I prefer this way of producing art" is good. To say "I prefer this way of producing art because the other way is lesser" is insulting to the people who prefer the other way.

Do you get it now? Why is it ok for Kevin to make such a statement because he agrees with you and not ok for Aaron to be insulted because he doesn't agree with Kevin?

Godfrey


On Mar 28, 2006, at 5:11 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Aaron, you, and others, don't get it. It's about personal perception and feeling, which doesn't have to conform to ~your~ logic. There are those
who take a very pragmatic view of the digital world and what it
offers/doesn't offer, and there are others who feel things more emotionally or subjectively. I have a hard time grasping why there have been almost 200 messages in this thread, which will neither resolve anything nor change
anything.  We all have our preferences - Kevin has his, some of us
understand it better, or differently, than others - so be it.

Let's wrap this up and move on to a subject from which we can learn and
grow as photographers and equipment fondlers ;-))


Shel



[Original Message]
From: Aaron Reynolds

 Kevin Waterson wrote:

allow me to finish
If you paint with light.......... you use an enlarger.
The painting with light does not finish with the camera exposure.
Mudh more is done in the darkroom.
This is what digital removes. Yes, you can fiddle with pixels all you
like
and change iso and white balance etc but it is not light, it is binary.

Um, what's the difference between a pixel and a grain of silver? Both
are highly technical processes, and I still fail to see how one has
magic where the other does not.

I understand the feeling of people who work with computers all day that
they don't want to work with computers on their free time, but the
feeling is the same for those who work in the darkroom all day.  The
darkroom is not an inherently magical place -- it is what you bring
into it.  The computer is the same.



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