Phenomena may be allowed to exist without the forced imposition of
reality.
IOW, tabled for future revelations without "conclusive" opinion.

Jack

--- Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Mar 29, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Gautam Sarup wrote:
> 
> > On 3/29/06, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Science today studies much that isn't real.  That's a 19th century
> >> definition.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > I'd say that if the mystics want to change the definition of  
> > science they
> > can't.  Science is still (and always will be) the study of  
> > reality.  The
> > "study of non-reality" if such a thing is possible will always be  
> > mysticism.
> >
> > There is no logical need to morph one into the other.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gautam
> >
> 
> Some definitions of science.  Reality is not mentioned in any of
> them:
> 
> the study of the natural world
> education.jlab.org/beamsactivity/6thgrade/vocabulary/
> 
> systemized knowledge derived through experimentation, observation,  
> and study. Also, the methodology used to acquire this knowledge.
> www.carm.org/evolution/evoterms.htm
> 
> A branch of knowledge based on objectivity and involving observation 
> 
> and experimentation.
> www.spaceforspecies.ca/glossary/s.htm
> 
> Primarily the pursuit and study of physical and material knowledge,  
> particularly in a systematic and organized manner, of spiritual
> matters.
> www.gnmagazine.org/bsc/03/glossary.htm
> 
> The arrangement of concepts in their rational connection to exhibit  
> them as an organic, progressive whole. See Introduction, Lectures on 
> 
> the History of Philosophy 7.
> www.class.uidaho.edu/mickelsen/texts/Hegel%20Glossary.htm
> 
> The body of related courses concerned with knowledge of the physical 
> 
> and biological world and with the processes of discovering and  
> validating this knowledge.
> nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/glossary/s.asp
> 
> a method of learning about the world by applying the principles of  
> the scientific method, which includes making empirical observations, 
> 
> proposing hypotheses to explain those observations, and testing those
>  
> hypotheses in valid and reliable ways; also refers to the organized  
> body of knowledge that results from scientific study.
> farahsouth.cgu.edu/dictionary/
> 
> systematically acquired knowledge that is verifiable.
> oregonstate.edu/instruct/anth370/gloss.html
> 
> Then there's this:
> 
> Science no longer seeks to explain phenomena and arrive at any kind  
> of reality; rather, it now seeks to classify phenomena according to  
> preconceived models. This, however, is what we would call "art"  
> according to our traditional categories.
> www.equivalence.com/labor/lab_vf_glo_e.shtml
> 
> I think that last one sums it up for me pretty well.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 


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