Excellent feedback, Bruce. Much appreciated!

> Two things you haven't really told us are if the
> 20-35 you have is the FA 20-35/4 that
> is so good or some other one.

Yes, but I don't use the doggone thing. My MZ-S has essentially retired,
so on the ist-D (for my use) it has become redundant and not as versatile
as the 16-45mm. However, you bring up yet another option...

> Secondly, how often are
> you wishing to go wider than 16mm?

That part I don't know. I just remember on my previous cross-country trip,
running into at least 1/2 dozen scenarios where I needed to go wider and
couldn't back up (usually waterfalls). Man, it was a miserable feeling.
But if my need for the wider end of the 12-24mm is as limited as you
suspect, then it may be better to just use the 20-35 on the MZ-S on those
rare (?) occassions (I totally overlooked that option). That'll get me
wider than the effective 24mm of the 16-45mm on the ist, without the added
cost (just with the hassle of carrying another lens and camera, and
developing film). hmm, something to consider.

Also,


> Last summer when I was preparing to go to Arches <snip>
> I went down to the local camera shop and tried a bunch
> of shots with the 12-24
> You can only get a few specific looks with that type of lens.
> Either just a big vista that no longer looks wide when you see the
> image, or something real close up made very big and the
> background receding away rapidly.
> Almost as cliche as a fisheye look.


Very interesting comments. Problem is, I have no clue what something
*that* wide looks like, so your experience with such things lends some
understanding. I could go play with it in the store, but my morals won't
allow me to do so if I know I'm not buying it from a brick-and-mortar
shop. I played with dougs fisheye one time in Atlanta some time back, but
that's about it for my experience wider than 24mm (effective).


> So my recommendation is that if you have the FA 20-35/4,
> you just get the 14/2.8 and work with both lenses.

Hmm. Option #18  :o)

or option #19:

> just get a new 16-45
> (one of my favorite scenic lenses).
> My hunch is that you will find as
> I did that the 12-24 is really a much more
> specialty lens than first thought.

Thanks again.


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