From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:41 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY
Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

As a clue, I'll tell you it wasn't The Ramones and
the Sex Pistols who started it - not by a long shot.

I've generally seen it attributed to the New York Dolls, but I expect it
was something of a movement even before them.

Trivia: Johnny Thunders of the New York Dolls made his last recordings
at my friend Tony Gross' recording studio in upstate New York with a
band called the Chesterfield Kings. They never finished the project
completely because Tony threw Johnny Thunders out after he caught him
shooting up heroin in the studio bathroom. Johnny OD'd only a couple of
weeks after that. The one song he did finish never got officially
released, for legal reasons. But I have a few copies on CD ;-)

Funny enough, I can add another bit of Johnny Thunders unofficial CD trivia.

In July of 1984 Johnny Thunders made an appearance with his band at a Music Festival here in Aland. I was MC for the festival. Frankly, I did not know much about The New York Dolls at the time other than recognizing their name, but friends told me about them and what they looked like. I thought - well another funny punk rock band who probably can't play very well... Anyway, they arrived and turned out to be a nice bunch of people. Johnny, who appeared quite straight (not on drugs) had his then Swedish girlfriend with him and I believe there was at least one more member of the original Dolls band. I recall, backstage before they were on to the stage, asking them if they wanted some hot dogs and soft drinks. Yeah, that'd be great, so off I went to get it for them. However to my surprise, the volunteers selling the hot-dogs ands such for the festival refused to give me anything unless they'd pay for it... Well, I simply had to return to our guests with the message I got. "Ah, never mind, we're fine. Thanks anyway", Johnny said, probably realizing how awkward I felt about it. "Well, just tell me if there is anything else that I can't get you", I replied. We got off well, maybe since they learned I used to play too, talking about music, instruments and such. After introducing them to a great and very appreciative crowd I stayed in the wing of the stage. Immediately as they hit it off with a straight rocker I was very pleasantly surprised - they were simply great rockers and gave a great performance. Anyway, twenty years on one of the local papers ran a full page story on this memorable concert. Unbeknownst to me at the time the whole show had been recorded and had now appeared on some bootleg CD:s of very limited circulation. Since I knew the writer I contacted him and was able to obtain a copy. Well, I just thought it kind of fun being part of this great modern tradition of bootleg recordings.

(Actually, this was my second clearly audible appearance on a bootleg by a name artist. The very first one was on a concert recording by... which one of my following musical heroes: Django Reinhardt, Charlie Parker or Jimi Hendrix? :-) )

Thanks,
Lasse (and yes I know I'm a bit late on this one, some 25 000 PDML messages behind...)

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