Okay, you may very well be right on this one. For example, I use the 
135/3.5 Super Tak hood on my FA 50/1.4. As you said, there's frequently 
room for improvement. I think the lens is 62mm thread. I'll have to see 
what I have on hand in that size and try some alternatives.
Paul
On Jun 16, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> Some more thoughts on the 16-45 hood:
>
> One of the things I discovered over the years was that hoods that fit 
> over
> the lens for storage, such as the hood for the 16-45, are usually 
> poorly
> optimized for best results since they are generally compromised by 
> their
> design in order to fit over the hood.  This was made clear to me some 
> years
> ago when testing hoods from Takumar lenses, many of which were 
> designed to
> slip over the lens in the same manner as the hood for the 16-45.  Even 
> on
> film cameras it was determined that a hood from a longer lens could 
> often -
> usually - be used to advantage on a shorter lens.
>
> I just did a very Q&D test of extending the protective area of the 
> 16-45
> hood, and there appears to be plenty of room for a hood that's either
> deeper or narrower, or both.  So, IMO, a better hood may be available 
> - the
> standard hood can certainly be improved upon.  Film (digital) at 11:00 
> <LOL>
>
> Shel
>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Bruce Dayton
>
>> Intrigued, I took my 16-45 and FA 50/1.4 outside here to test for
>> flare.  It is 100 degrees and very sunny right now, so easy to get the
>> sun in the image.  As I worked with the 16-45 first, I could cause it
>> to flare when I put the sun just outside of the top corner of the
>> frame.  If I moved the sun into the frame just slightly, it flare
>> would go away.  So it seemed that there was one angle of the sun that
>> would catch the glass just right that SMC coatings wouldn't help
>> enough.
>>
>> Then I put on the FA 50 and tried the same thing.  On this lens, it
>> would flare just as the sun was put into the frame, rather than just
>> outside it.  It can be made to flare just about as easily as the
>> 16-45, but at a different angle.
>>
>> The picture that Paul Stenquist showed had the sun in the frame and so
>> the flare was mostly absent.  Your shot has the sun just outside the
>> frame and so it really showed.
>>
>> Anyway, in my quickie test, it seemed that there was a single spot
>> where the flare would really show, but I could make another Pentax
>> lens do just about the same thing.  That is probably why I haven't
>> noticed any real flare problems with mine - it didn't take much of a
>> movement to fix the problem.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>
>
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