I was going to comment on the size restriction as well, but decided not 
to stir the pot. But since you bring it up: yes it is a problem. It's 
very difficult to prepare an acceptable image at less than 75K. I find 
that I have to strip the metadata, so I do a save for web. But at 600 
pixels or less on the long side, it's hard to provide an image that 
viewers can actually see. These limits are an historic artifact from 
the early days of the list and PUG. It's really time to change them. 
But every time that has been suggested, it seems there was an outcry of 
unfair to dialup users. Perhaps dial-up is virtually dead, and we can 
mover forward
On Jun 20, 2006, at 9:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> Well, I wasn't going to respond unless I at least attempted to submit
> something to the PUG. So I tried. Nevertheless, I'm not offended. ;-)
>
> Even a *small* rendering of a photo, 500x400 pixels, compressed at
> median JPEG settings, is difficult to upload with a 75K limitation.
> Virtually impossible to upload a photo that size with an embedded ICC
> profile and metadata which preserves my copyright and contact
> information. The PUG's format must date from a while back ... People
> today look at 500K image files without batting an eyelash. No wonder
> so many of the photos render on screen with such poor quality.
>
> I could compress the photo I was going to submit even further or make
> it even smaller, or strip out my metadata, but I don't really like to
> reduce the quality of the photographs I present so much.
>
> I guess I'll pass.
>
> Godfrey
>
>
> On Jun 20, 2006, at 7:51 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> Today is the last day to submit entries for the July Pentax Users'
>> Gallery (PUG).
>>
>> The theme is "What is it?" but one can also submit any photo in the
>> "open" section of the PUG gallery.
>>
>> The entries must be submitted here:
>>
>> http://oksne.net/autopug/PUGform.asp
>>
>> The professional photographers among us and the photographic artistes
>> have decided that the PUG is beneath them -- too many crude and
>> inartistic entries -- but I think that there are still a few amateurs
>> on this list who don't take themselves so seriously and would enjoy
>> posting in a general gallery like this and later seeing what others
>> are doing and how they interpret the theme of the month.  It's fun.
>>
>> You  can comment on the entries if you feel like it or just enjoy the
>> ones you like and laugh at the efforts, like mine, that are a bit
>> weak.  It's an informal thing.   You can post your shots here even if
>> you don't have a photography homepage or a gallery of your own
>> somewhere else.  The ease of participating is one of the things that
>> makes it so nice for us hacks.
>>
>> Please keep it quiet, however, we don't want to offend the Pros. . .
>>
>> Dan M
>
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