Make that, "I don't understand YOUR answer."
Paul
On Jul 1, 2006, at 4:18 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> I don't understand our answer. You say that you want others to process
> your images. But you can't imagine turning over a card full of images
> to a lab. You can't have it both ways.
> Paul
> On Jul 1, 2006, at 4:09 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>
>> Mini-lab prints from film are, for me, only proofs. Often I only ask
>> for a CD.
>> My weakness is the fact that I have a version of Photoshop and minimal
>> resistance when it comes to allowing another to "process" my images.
>> Can't imagine turning over a card full of images to a mini-lab. Maybe
>> at an in-law birthday party and lawn sale, but nothing else.
>> Point #3 IS valid for me. IOW, I know myself.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Point 3 isn't valid either. If lab processing is the way you want to
>>> go, you can drop off a memory card at any halfway decent lab and pick
>>>
>>> up your prints in a couple of hours. The minilab that used to process
>>>
>>> my color neg film claims they can produce even nicer prints from best
>>>
>>> quality jpegs. I haven't had any reason to try them, but I might. But
>>>
>>> even when I was shooting color film, I regarded those prints as
>>> nothing
>>> more than proofs. I would then scan the best frames and make my own
>>> prints. I never found a lab that did a better job at a reasonable
>>> price.
>>> Paul
>>> On Jul 1, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jens,
>>>> Actually, your point #3 is the only one that has true application
>>> if
>>>> one considers digital in general.
>>>> All are valid if specific brands are considered.
>>>>
>>>> Jack
>>>>
>>>> --- Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1st
>>>>> Speed, is one thing. 2,5 fps and 36 shots in a row.
>>>>> No Pentax DSLR can do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2nd
>>>>> Annother thing is that there's NO crop factor. Meaning more wide
>>>>> angle for
>>>>> the buck.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3rd
>>>>> It's so easy to shoot a film, give it to the lab and then pick up
>>>>> nice
>>>>> photographs. No hazzle with editing in the computer, cropping,
>>>>> resizing,
>>>>> printing etc.
>>>>> When the last shot is finished, your work is already done! Digital
>>>>> photography is for people that are either rather uncritical or
>>> have a
>>>>> lot of
>>>>> time on their hands.
>>>>>
>>>>> That three very good reason to shoot film.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Jens Bladt
>>>>> http://www.jensbladt.dk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>>>>> Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne
>>> af
>>>>> Jack
>>>>> Davis
>>>>> Sendt: 1. juli 2006 18:18
>>>>> Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>>>> Emne: Re: Coming Soon - A new K-mount Film Camera
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam,
>>>>> I'd be interested in knowing what it is that you "want" that film
>>>>> alone
>>>>> satisfies.
>>>>> I'm not doubting your word, just mulling the digital switch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jack
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> People are still buying them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In fact some of us are quite happily shooting film, and intend to
>>>>>> shoot
>>>>>> film as long as it's available. Digital is nice, but it doesn't
>>> do
>>>>>> everything I want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don Williams wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't quite understand why new 35mm bodies are being made at
>>>>> all.
>>>>>> Two
>>>>>>> film makers (that I know of) have stopped making 35mm film and
>>> the
>>>>>> sales
>>>>>>> of digital cameras keeps climbing -- and the prices keep coming
>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>> Will good high res film continue to be available? If so I think
>>> I
>>>>>> ought
>>>>>>> to get the Wild/Leica Microscope camera out of the cupboard --
>>>>> where
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> put it when the *ist D arrived.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob Shell wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 30, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This little guy's been around for a year or two.  From the few
>>>>>> reviews
>>>>>>>>> I've read about it, it seems to be mechanically very similar
>>> (if
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> identical) to the K-mount bodies offered by Phoenix, Vivitar,
>>>>>>>>> Promaster, etc.  However, the last time I picked up a
>>> Promaster
>>>>>>>>> K-body, IIRC it was made in China or Thailand.  The VSL43 is
>>>>> made
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> Japan, so I may be completely wrong about the similarities.
>>> The
>>>>>>>>> reviews do suggest that it has a very nice viewfinder.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's made by Cosina in Japan.  Same innards as some of the
>>>>> Vivitar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SLR cameras.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Promaster you saw is a rebadged Seagull from China.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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